On non-dualism

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Hello,

 

I think these are taken in the context of, or given to, a

housholder.?????????

 

What is the difference between a renuciate and a householder?

 

renuciate - non-dual

housholder- qualified non-dualists

 

Whatch you think?

 

I have found both Sri Ramakrishna and Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi told

the disciple what they needed to hear. But only Ramakrishna seemed to

lead people thru dualism to no-dualism. Ramana never played mothers

game, and always seemed to tell it how it was, non-dual.

 

One could argue till their blue in the face as to what system worked

better. Or one could just agree that both worked.

 

 

Namaste

Om Namah Shivaya

Jason James Morgan

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Dear Jason,

 

Regarding your query on " Do you accept qualified non-dualism? Or do

you only practice non-dualism", I would like share some of the notes

collected by me:

 

" Advaita should not be practiced in ordinary activities. It is

sufficient if there is no differentiation in the mind. If one keeps

cartloads of discreminatory thoughts within, one should not pretend

that all is one on the outside.

This world is a huge theatre. Each person has to act whatever role is

assigned to him. It is the nature of the universe to be

differentiated but within each person there should be no

differentiation.

Although the same man may play the role of all the characters in a

play, his acts will be determined by the role that he is playing at

each moment. In the role of a king he will sit on the throne and

rule. If the same person takes on the role of a servant, he will

carry the sandals of his master and follow him. His real Self is

neither increased nor decreased while he plays these roles. The jnani

never forgets that he himself has played all the roles in the past.

Verse 85 in Lakshman Sarma's Revelation translation - this is same as

verse 39 of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham.

' Meditate always on the Truth which is without a second; but never

(seek to) apply the teaching of non-duality to actions in the worldly

life; my son, meditate on this Truth as covering all the universe; but

never do so in respect of the Guru.'

There are two ideas present in this 'Anubandham' verse: the first is

that one should not attempt to practice advaita in the day-to-day

activities of one's worldly life; the second is a much more specific

injunction that one should never practice advaita towards one's Guru.

Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it into action. Even

if you apply it to all the three worlds, O Son, it is not to be

applied to the Guru. "

 

( I do not remember the source, I would have noted this passage from

one of the many web sites dedicated to Sri Ramana Maharshi. )

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Dora

 

 

 

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Dear Swathi,

Offlate i see your postings on Who am I.Its very good.Though it is

repetition again,but still it is worth reading as it sticks to the core

teachings of bhagawan.so kudos to you.Again this mail on advaitha and its

practise is a fine advise on our conduct on day to day life and a reminder on

how to approach our reverred bhagawan and other elders/jnanis of the world.

vijay

swathi dora [doraksp (AT) (DOT) co.in]Sent:

Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:31 AMramana; satsangSubject:

[RamanaMaharshi] On non-dualism

Dear Jason,

 

Regarding your query on " Do you accept qualified non-dualism? Or do you only

practice non-dualism", I would like share some of the notes collected by me:

 

" Advaita should not be practiced in ordinary activities. It is sufficient if

there is no differentiation in the mind. If one keeps cartloads of

discreminatory thoughts within, one should not pretend that all is one on the

outside.

This world is a huge theatre. Each person has to act whatever role is assigned

to him. It is the nature of the universe to be differentiated but within each

person there should be no differentiation.

Although the same man may play the role of all the characters in a play, his

acts will be determined by the role that he is playing at each moment. In the

role of a king he will sit on the throne and rule. If the same person takes on

the role of a servant, he will carry the sandals of his master and follow him.

His real Self is neither increased nor decreased while he plays these roles.

The jnani never forgets that he himself has played all the roles in the past.

Verse 85 in Lakshman Sarma's Revelation translation - this is same as verse 39

of Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham.

' Meditate always on the Truth which is without a second; but never (seek to)

apply the teaching of non-duality to actions in the worldly life; my son,

meditate on this Truth as covering all the universe; but never do so in respect

of the Guru.'

There are two ideas present in this 'Anubandham' verse: the first is that one

should not attempt to practice advaita in the day-to-day activities of one's

worldly life; the second is a much more specific injunction that one should

never practice advaita towards one's Guru.

Keep advaita within the Heart. Do not ever carry it into action. Even if you

apply it to all the three worlds, O Son, it is not to be applied to the Guru. "

 

( I do not remember the source, I would have noted this passage from one of the

many web sites dedicated to Sri Ramana Maharshi. )

 

Yours in Bhagavan

Dora

 

 

 

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