Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">advaitin [advaitin] bold">On Behalf Of Tony OClery Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:55 PM advaitin Re: Fwd: Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Yoga Nidra etc 12.0pt"> 10.0pt">Namaste H, This is where I differ in opinion. Sat-Cit-Ananda are to me 'qualities' as Ramana would say and does say. Qualities and attributes are the same, so we are talking of something experiential whether it seems to be universal or not. i.e. Saguna Brahman. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">****************************************************************** 12.0pt">These are all debates for scholars Tony. Saguna and Nirguna are the same thing. The so called “Impersonal Brahman” turns out to be one’s very own being. One can’t get anymore personal than that! Sat-Chit-Ananda-Nityam-Poornum. One without a second, whose nature is that of Existence, Consciousness, Ananda. That which is Whole, Complete, and Eternal, that is our nature, not something to be observed by the mind as a separate thing, but That which shines through the mind, that which is Self-Existent in the absence of mind and the presence of mind. That which Knows It Self, not as one knowing another but as One whose very nature is that of Self-Knowing. That is our nature. Self is devoid and empty of all things, thoughts, concepts, perceptions, experiences, possibilities. This is indicated by the Ajatavada doctrine. Yet, the nature of the Self is that of utter and complete fullness. That is indicated by the terms Sat-Chit-Ananda-Nityam-Poornum. Because the mind cannot fully grasp it, different perspectives are given in the scriptures. These perspectives have meaning only in relationship to each other. Because Self truly has no frame of reference, being One without a second, all doctrines are essentially empty of meaning. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Love to all 12.0pt">Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 - Harsha advaitin ; Friday, April 22, 2005 8:55 AM RE: Re: Fwd: Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Yoga Nidra etc advaitin [advaitin] On Behalf Of Tony OCleryWednesday, April 20, 2005 4:55 PMTo: advaitinSubject: Re: [ - Ramana Guru] Fwd: Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Yoga Nidra etc Namaste H,This is where I differ in opinion. Sat-Cit-Ananda are to me 'qualities' as Ramana would say and does say. Qualities and attributes are the same, so we are talking of something experiential whether it seems to be universal or not. i.e. Saguna Brahman. ****************************************************************** These are all debates for scholars Tony. Saguna and Nirguna are the same thing. The so called “Impersonal Brahman” turns out to be one’s very own being. One can’t get anymore personal than that! Sat-Chit-Ananda-Nityam-Poornum. One without a second, whose nature is that of Existence, Consciousness, Ananda. That which is Whole, Complete, and Eternal, that is our nature, not something to be observed by the mind as a separate thing, but That which shines through the mind, that which is Self-Existent in the absence of mind and the presence of mind. That which Knows It Self, not as one knowing another but as One whose very nature is that of Self-Knowing. That is our nature. Self is devoid and empty of all things, thoughts, concepts, perceptions, experiences, possibilities. This is indicated by the Ajatavada doctrine. Yet, the nature of the Self is that of utter and complete fullness. That is indicated by the terms Sat-Chit-Ananda-Nityam-Poornum. Because the mind cannot fully grasp it, different perspectives are given in the scriptures. These perspectives have meaning only in relationship to each other. Because Self truly has no frame of reference, being One without a second, all doctrines are essentially empty of meaning. Love to all Harsha And so, in this 'Knowing', One is free as This Knowing Itself. Life as This continues as a ' fullfilling of Itself'. or One seeing its own emptiness, identifying with 'emptiness' Sees All as a fullfillment. All is Love Anna /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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