SRI CHINMOY A VISIT TO RAMANASRAMAM

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Dear Gary

thank you for your information

i did not know that this "famous" Chinmoy dared to call himself this and that...

without judging because does it not speak for itself and is that not enough????

How wonderful what a Grace to have "come along" beloved SRI RAMANA

in Ramana

michaelgaryfalk1943 <falkgw (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

It is very refreshing to see an instance where Sri Chinmoy has

acknowledged another spiritual master as being an Avatar, and not

merely a "partial one", presumably, like Jesus or Sri Aurrobindo.Sri

Chinmoy has relegated almost every spiritual master who has ever

lived to rungs on the spiritual ladder far below his own, which of

course, is none other than the rung on the very top.I was not at all

surprised that Sri Chinmoy did not confide to Mani that he (Sri

Chinmoy)too, was an Avatar, in fact, the Avatar known in Hindu

mythology as Kalki, the 10th. and final incarnation of the god

Vishnu. That is not something Sri Chinmoy announces publically,

although he has made that claim to at least one group of relatively

close disciples.Just a little anecdote from my experience as a

disciple of his when I was living

in Jamaica, Queens, from 1970 thru 1980.After Sri Chinmoy's first

visit to Ramanashram, the Mother gave him a big slap as punishment

for what she considered to be young Chinmoy's disloyalty to Sri

Aurobindo.Gary, michael bindel

<michael_bindel> wrote:> > My Visit to Sri Ramanasramam> > > >

Sri Chinmoy's talk at the N.Y. Arunachala Ashrama on September 5th,

1999> > I> > n June this year I was in India for a few days to visit

my brother who lives at the Sri Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry. On

June 9th, I decided to go to Ramana Maharshi's Ashram, which is only

two and a half hours away. This was my fourth visit. I went there in

1956, 1958 and again fifteen years ago. > > The first thing to greet

me when I arrived was a peacock. The peacock was so beautiful. Then I

started

moving around the Ashram, here and there, taking video and

photographs. The entire Ashram was full of peace, peace, peace. > > I

entered the main meditation hall. The statue of Sri Ramana Maharshi is

most sacred. When I first saw this statue of Ramana garlanded in 1956,

1 felt Ramana Maharshi's living presence inside the statue. This time

also, this particular statue was absolutely living. Unfortunately,

because of the condition of my knee, I was able to go around the

statue only once. Then I sat down to meditate. The atmosphere inside

the meditation hall was so sublime. > > Afterwards, I wanted to go to

the cave where Maharshi actually meditated when he arrived at

Arunachala. I was told that it was a fortyfive minute walk and I

could not walk at all. When I went there 15 years ago, I saw the cave

and I had a very good experience. But this time it was impossible. > >

I decided to go and ask the

President of the Ashram if it was really such a long walk. The

President was not there, but the VicePresident was available. I

entered into his office and we began talking and talking. Mani was

curious to know if I had known Dilip. We began our conversation with

Dilip Kumar Roy, the Golden Voice. I knew him in my adolescent years

at the Sri Aurobindo Ashram. So I was able to tell the Vice President

many stories about Dilipda and my own personal experiences. He was so

pleased to hear them. > > Then our marathon conversation touched on

South India's greatest poet, Subramaniam Bharati, and also the

immortal Sanskrit scholar, T.V. Kapali Shastri, who happened to be my

Sanskrit teacher. > > The VicePresident was extremely, extremely kind

to me. He told me his name was Mani, but when I asked him his

position, he said, "I am nobody, I am nobody." He was very humble. We

spent over an hour together. He repeatedly

requested me to stay the night at the Ashram so that I could meet the

President the following day, but I could not comply with his loving

request. > > At one point, Mani asked me, "Was it true that the

Mother of the Sri Aurobindo Ashram watched the light?" [The star that

appeared and floated slowly across the sky at the moment of the

Maharshi's Mahasamadhi]. > > I said, "It is absolutely true. We were

at that time in the playground. I was one of the captains. I was only

twenty or thirty meters away from the Mother. As soon as we saw the

column of light, the Mother immediately folded her hands and we also

folded our hands. We watched the light. It was like a fireball. Then

the radio made the announcement that Ramana Maharshi had passed on."

> > Mani was very, very moved when he heard that the Mother had

folded her hands and we all did the same. He was thrilled. > > As I

was taking my

leave of Mani, he asked me, "What do you think of our Ashram?" > > I

said, "I have been to many spiritual places. I live in America, in

New York. In America, sound is sound, and silence is silence. Here,

around the temple and in the vicinity of Ramana Maharshi's Ashram, I

wish to say that the silence is such a deep silence. But inside the

sound also I feel silence." > > Mani looked at me. So I added, by way

of explanation, "Sound is sound and silence is silence. But here at

Ramana Maharshi's place, even in the sound, I feel such peace, such

joy. I see men and women passing by, and I see such peace in their

faces. There is so much peace. Here in sound also I feel silence."

Then he was very, very happy. > > On my way back to Pondicherry in

the taxi my soul was swimming and swimming in the sea of ecstasy.

That is when I had the inspiration to write my song in Bengali about

Ramana Maharshi. I

translated it into English upon my return to New York. > > In July, I

had the blessingful opportunity to speak to Mani's brother, Sundaram,

on the phone. The President and I had a very illumining conversation

about Avatars. I was telling him that each human being is a

Godrepresentative, while Avatars like Maharshi Ramana are the direct

representatives, supreme representatives, of the Absolute Supreme. We

are trying to follow in the footsteps of these mightiest, giant souls

who came to earth and whose consciousness is still here on earth and

will forever remain here to illumine the world and elevate the

consciousness of the world. > > My heart is all gratitude to this

mightiest soul, Maharshi Ramana. I also wish to offer my deepest

gratitude to my esteemed BrotherFriends, Sundaram and Mani, who are

now shouldering the responsibility of Maharshi's Ashram. > > I am so

fortunate to be here with you

today on the blessingful anniversary of the Maharshi's arrival at

Arunachala and for that I offer my heartfelt gratitude to the

genuinely aspiring soul, Dennis, and to all the members of this

sacred Ashram. > > O Great Sage Ramana> A Compassion-Eye, a time

immemorial Dream—> Great Sage Ramana!> The destruction-illumination

of the little "i"> And> The perfection-manifestation of the big "I">

In you we have found.> You are the Supreme Utterance> Of the Land of

Immortality.> In one Form you are the Darling, King and Light> Of

Arunachala.> You embody the Supreme Satisfaction> Of earth and

Heaven.> > — Sri Chinmoy > (Bengali words, June 9th, 1999; English

translation, June 12th, 1999) > > > THE MAHARSHI>

> > > > > Nov./Dec. 1999> Vol. 9 -

No.

6> > > > Produced & Edited by> Dennis Hartel> Dr. Anil K. Sharma> > >

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Just a little anecdote from my experience as a disciple of his when I

was living in Jamaica, Queens, from 1970 thru 1980.

 

After Sri Chinmoy's first visit to Ramanashram, the Mother gave him a

big slap as punishment for what she considered to be young Chinmoy's

disloyalty to Sri Aurobindo.

 

Gary

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Was it a "sound" slap, Garyji ? ;-)

And how do you know this?

Did you hear it, or did you hear of it?

 

LOL,

 

Joyce

 

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[more courtesy snip]

 

 

> At one point, Mani asked me, "Was it true that the Mother of the

Sri Aurobindo Ashram watched the light?" [The star that appeared and

floated slowly across the sky at the moment of the Maharshi's

Mahasamadhi].

>

> I said, "It is absolutely true. We were at that time in the

playground. I was one of the captains. I was only twenty or thirty

meters away from the Mother. As soon as we saw the column of light,

the Mother immediately folded her hands and we also folded our hands.

We watched the light. It was like a fireball. Then the radio made the

announcement that Ramana Maharshi had passed on."

>

> Mani was very, very moved when he heard that the Mother had folded

her hands and we all did the same. He was thrilled.

>

> As I was taking my leave of Mani, he asked me, "What do you think

of our Ashram?"

>

> I said, "I have been to many spiritual places. I live in America,

in New York. In America, sound is sound, and silence is silence.

Here, around the temple and in the vicinity of Ramana Maharshi's

Ashram, I wish to say that the silence is such a deep silence. But

inside the sound also I feel silence."

>

> Mani looked at me. So I added, by way of explanation, "Sound is

sound and silence is silence. But here at Ramana Maharshi's place,

even in the sound, I feel such peace, such joy. I see men and women

passing by, and I see such peace in their faces. There is so much

peace. Here in sound also I feel silence." Then he was very, very

happy.

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Dear Gary,

 

Over a period of more than half a century, some of the greatest yogis

and sages of India and even a few shankracharyas had the good fortune to

visit Bhagavan. So here was Sri Ramana, sitting virtually naked and

content and care free. These yogis with mystical powers and siddhis and

learned men bowed when they saw the true master sitting there.

 

After Sri Ramana arrived in Arunachala, he never felt the desire to go

anywhere and give darshan and so forth. Appearing ordinary in all ways,

the sage of arunchala was full of life, humor, laughter, and yet

manifested a silence that was the epitome of serene beauty.

 

One time, someone came to visit Sri Ramana while he was sitting all

alone. The person asked Bhagavan "where is the swami"? Sri Ramana said,

the swami has gone out somewhere. That was Sri Ramana's way. He did not

consider himself any swami or different than anyone. So the person left

and ran into a devotee and told her how he cannot locate the Swami. This

long time devotee of Bhagavan took this person to Ramana and said this

is the swami. After the person had left, the devotee asked Ramana

whether it is right for him to trick people like that and tell them

that the Swami is gone out somewhere. Sri Ramana said, what am I

supposed to do, wear a bell on my neck or have a label posted on my

forehead saying here is the swami.

 

Ramana was the most natural Guru. His power and grace to open the Heart

and make the devotees realize their own being was literally

overwhelming. Poor illiterate devotees who knew nothing of yoga,

meditation, or scriptures but were lucky enough to get his instructions

on cooking and other minor things have recounted the old days and said

things like "He used to make us like Himself". Meaning, he would make

them see their own Self in an instant, bypassing all spiritual

practices! Sri Ramana has no equals. There are some wonderful stories we

have posted before. Have you read, "Love and Romance at Ramana ashram".

I think I posted something from the newsletter with that title. It is a

great story. So many wonderful stories. I think we have a link on HS on

Sri Ramana stories as well.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

garyfalk1943 wrote:

>

> It is very refreshing to see an instance where Sri Chinmoy has

> acknowledged another spiritual master as being an Avatar, and not

> merely a "partial one", presumably, like Jesus or Sri Aurrobindo.

>

> Sri Chinmoy has relegated almost every spiritual master who has ever

> lived to rungs on the spiritual ladder far below his own, which of

> course, is none other than the rung on the very top.

>

> I was not at all surprised that Sri Chinmoy did not confide to Mani

> that he (Sri Chinmoy)too, was an Avatar, in fact, the Avatar known in

> Hindu mythology as Kalki, the 10th. and final incarnation of the god

> Vishnu.

>

> That is not something Sri Chinmoy announces publically, although he

> has made that claim to at least one group of relatively close

> disciples.

>

> Just a little anecdote from my experience as a disciple of his when I

> was living in Jamaica, Queens, from 1970 thru 1980.

>

> After Sri Chinmoy's first visit to Ramanashram, the Mother gave him a

> big slap as punishment for what she considered to be young Chinmoy's

> disloyalty to Sri Aurobindo.

>

>

> Gary

>