Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Yes! Thank you Pieter for this reminder. We are blessed to have you participating here. Without some hope that there is benefit to hearing such words spoken, we would likely not have an email list to share quotes. It is difficult when quotes are taken out of context. Sometimes they sound more one-sided than they actually are, as a correction that expresses a fuller point of view may be given later. I doubt that he meant no one could speak from truth, as this would exclude himself. :-) The way I hear the quote, Castenada is saying a reliance on words alone will not be sufficient. How's that for spin? Love, Gloria - Pieter MillionPaths ; namo ; Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:30 PM [MillionPaths] The flaw with words There are some who go beyond words, who abide in Truth, and when they speak and act, their Word is so powerful that the Truth within us "hears" the Word, awakens, recollects, and abides in That Truth. >From time to time people awaken, who live and speack and act from beyond the mind, and say "I am the Truth," i.e.,"Sat Nam" and the reverberation of that Living Word awakens all of us that can "hear." Then the veil of Maya disipates, like the morning fog as the Sun rises. - Gloria Lee Gillian Eardley path ; namo ; , allspiritinspiration Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 6:47& 11:57 PM [MillionPaths] Fw: [allspiritinspiration] The flaw with words The flaw with words is that they always make us feel enlightened, but when we turn around to face the world they always fail us and we end up facing the world as we always have, without enlightenment. For this reason, a warrior seeks to act rather than to talk...~Carlos CastanedaQuoted in 'Half Way Up the Mountain - The Error of Premature Claims to Enlightenment' by Mariana CaplanAllspirit Website: http://www.allspirit.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 I saw a post someplace in which the person writing was commenting on how many people that had read that the Truth is always realized, so that there is no practice necessary, having understood this intellectually, assume that they are also Self realized Beings, sort of a Satre or Camus existential realization, similar to the idea that by announcing that one is a Born Again Christian, i.e., that Christ is a Savior, one is Saved, in both cases the result is a sort of discarding of the practice of virtue, because either there are no sins, and one can do whatever one likes, or because one is forever forgiven and therefore one can do whatever one likes. But Saviors emanate from beyond the veil. Therefore, their Word reverberates throughout the fabric of time and space. This means that when the heart (mind) becomes pure, it becomes possible to "hear" them both in the action of their Lives and in their Words. That part of us which is True, recognizes Itself, like someone with amnesia, being told repeatedly and in many examples who they really are, and suddenly there is a recognition, a "hearing," inward reflection and abiding in That Truth, which entirely dissolves the old notions, the old mind. - Gloria Lee MillionPaths ; namo ; Thursday, 05 May, 2005 3:58 AM Re: [MillionPaths] The flaw with words Yes! Thank you Pieter for this reminder. We are blessed to have you participating here. Without some hope that there is benefit to hearing such words spoken, we would likely not have an email list to share quotes. It is difficult when quotes are taken out of context. Sometimes they sound more one-sided than they actually are, as a correction that expresses a fuller point of view may be given later. I doubt that he meant no one could speak from truth, as this would exclude himself. :-) The way I hear the quote, Castenada is saying a reliance on words alone will not be sufficient. How's that for spin? Love, Gloria - Pieter MillionPaths ; namo ; Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:30 PM [MillionPaths] The flaw with words There are some who go beyond words, who abide in Truth, and when they speak and act, their Word is so powerful that the Truth within us "hears" the Word, awakens, recollects, and abides in That Truth. >From time to time people awaken, who live and speack and act from beyond the mind, and say "I am the Truth," i.e.,"Sat Nam" and the reverberation of that Living Word awakens all of us that can "hear." Then the veil of Maya disipates, like the morning fog as the Sun rises. - Gloria Lee Gillian Eardley path ; namo ; , allspiritinspiration Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 6:47& 11:57 PM [MillionPaths] Fw: [allspiritinspiration] The flaw with words The flaw with words is that they always make us feel enlightened, but when we turn around to face the world they always fail us and we end up facing the world as we always have, without enlightenment. For this reason, a warrior seeks to act rather than to talk...~Carlos CastanedaQuoted in 'Half Way Up the Mountain - The Error of Premature Claims to Enlightenment' by Mariana CaplanAllspirit Website: http://www.allspirit.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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