[MillionPaths] Be As You Are - Life in the wo

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>>> Re: [MillionPaths] Be As You Are - Life in the wo

>>> @ Harsha wrote:

>>> Good question Jill! if two people have a child, both should

>>> obviously lovingly take care of it without thinking of themselves

as sinners.

>>>Too bad that Buddha ran away though and left his wife and child to

>>> go meditate. That has bothered a lot of people throughout the

ages.

>>> Buddha's leaving his wife and child seems wrong, does it not? Does

any Buddhist wish to defend Buddha, please feel free.

>> Siddhartha ran away?

>> where would he go?

>>

>> What do we know of what became of his family.. Anyone?

>> T.

 

 

> AFAIK it's a Herman Hesse story....a book of the month on one

website.

>

 

 

 

Well, I love a good invitation for satsang

 

Hermann Hesse probably knew as much or little of Buddha as any of us

today. It is an enigma to look into the past with effort to discern

truth. Truth is always something that brings us here to the now

 

I chose to make my point using Siddhartha because for me, to

consider the personal experience of Buddha is no more or less

accessable than to read a book of Hermann Hesse's

 

As any other's experience, no?

What we do considering another's actions speaks only of ourselves. It

is a mirror of our personality.

 

Here is my mirror.

 

The one known in history as Buddha stepped forth in a quest for

consciousness. We can only speculate about it's details. Who is the

human being who chooses out of his struggle in this existance to find

the understanding beyond struggle? That is what Buddha was. How can I

say that? Because of where he arrived in his success.

 

As the legend goes, before enlightenment he was a man who was

sheltered from the suffering of the world. His father, a king, forbade

his knowledge of common folk and their lives. Then one day, it

inevitibly happened the prince beheld someone suffering. A fire

sparked in him to understand. His passion and wisdom was to know the

cause of suffering. It was much more than the desire to meditate. His

passion was actually compassion. His journey was not confined to

gratification of his own need. This is what set him apart from what I

think of as selfish motive. In a way it was indeed but a thirst for

satisfaction, but that thirst was to truly to extend something for all

mankind.

 

This is why I asked, 'Where would he go?'.

His quest was to answer a mystery touching all mankind. His quest was

fueled in a compassionate heart, appreciating that while another

suffers, it touches all

 

And so he left his society, his family. They were the princess and

grandchild to a king. I think it is fair to think they hardly would

want materially after he departed. But also, just as others have said,

Buddha need not be defended. He wouldn't want us to consider this

compelled in that way. He would rather we weigh the duty as was his in

that moment - a son, father and husband - and the calling of a

compassion for the whole of his community - and think of ourselves.

Have we answered the voice that beckons the knowledge of inner

reality? Do we hear that voice despite our attachments, despite all

roles we seek to fulfill, sometimes with half the heart? It is unique

for everyone. Each of us must know, and I think the Buddha's story

shows the answers are not set in absolute rights and wrongs.

 

I can relate to exactly what his feelings might have toward his

family. How can I truly love them when I walk in ignorance?

Considering things this way I chose to realize it was truly in his

love he set out on his journey. He knew he wanted to love, to be

responsibly conscious - in a much deeper way than he already was.

 

He no doubt gathered great wisdom in his unfolding. He appreciated he

must fully know the gem of consciousness within himself to make a

difference.

 

To stay, indeed he may have been the father and husband that family

knew not thereafter. They did become devotees when he became that

teacher, and what value came to them then? Perhaps little. Perhaps all

the vast difference of lives transpired in ignorance or in the

inspiration of illumination

 

Did he have to go to do that? He saw it so.

Did he think he left them behind?

For a time, a time he knew would be the end to time

 

T.

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Every being relates a part of the story....

A Buddha, A Christ, A Mohammed, A Romana etc

EveryOne is met in compassion and Love............... or not.

Depending on the OneWho is meeting..............

One does what one must as the truth of One's Being.........But when that Truth is

Self-Evident.......stars are born........

Thank you for your kindness TC, This Truth we have together in this moment of Satsang.

Anna

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TC

Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:04 PM

Re: [MillionPaths] Be As You Are - Life in the wo

>>> Re: [MillionPaths] Be As You Are - Life in the wo>>>

@ Harsha wrote:>>> Good question

Jill! if two people have a child, both should>>> obviously lovingly

take care of it without thinking of themselvesas sinners.>>>Too bad

that Buddha ran away though and left his wife and child to>>> go

meditate. That has bothered a lot of people throughout theages. >>>

Buddha's leaving his wife and child seems wrong, does it not? Doesany

Buddhist wish to defend Buddha, please feel free.>> Siddhartha ran

away?>> where would he go?>> >> What do we know of what became of

his family.. Anyone?>> T.> AFAIK it's a Herman Hesse story....a

book of the month on onewebsite.> Well, I love a good invitation for

satsangHermann Hesse probably knew as much or little of Buddha as any

of ustoday. It is an enigma to look into the past with effort to

discerntruth. Truth is always something that brings us here to the

nowI chose to make my point using Siddhartha because for me,

toconsider the personal experience of Buddha is no more or

lessaccessable than to read a book of Hermann Hesse'sAs any other's

experience, no?What we do considering another's actions speaks only

of ourselves. Itis a mirror of our personality.Here is my mirror.The

one known in history as Buddha stepped forth in a quest

forconsciousness. We can only speculate about it's details. Who is

thehuman being who chooses out of his struggle in this existance to

findthe understanding beyond struggle? That is what Buddha was. How

can Isay that? Because of where he arrived in his success.As the

legend goes, before enlightenment he was a man who wassheltered from

the suffering of the world. His father, a king, forbadehis knowledge

of common folk and their lives. Then one day, itinevitibly happened

the prince beheld someone suffering. A firesparked in him to

understand. His passion and wisdom was to know thecause of suffering.

It was much more than the desire to meditate. Hispassion was actually

compassion. His journey was not confined togratification of his own

need. This is what set him apart from what Ithink of as selfish

motive. In a way it was indeed but a thirst forsatisfaction, but that

thirst was to truly to extend something for allmankind. This is why I

asked, 'Where would he go?'.His quest was to answer a mystery

touching all mankind. His quest wasfueled in a compassionate heart,

appreciating that while anothersuffers, it touches allAnd so he left

his society, his family. They were the princess andgrandchild to a

king. I think it is fair to think they hardly wouldwant materially

after he departed. But also, just as others have said,Buddha need not

be defended. He wouldn't want us to consider thiscompelled in that

way. He would rather we weigh the duty as was his inthat moment - a

son, father and husband - and the calling of acompassion for the

whole of his community - and think of ourselves.Have we answered the

voice that beckons the knowledge of innerreality? Do we hear that

voice despite our attachments, despite allroles we seek to fulfill,

sometimes with half the heart? It is uniquefor everyone. Each of us

must know, and I think the Buddha's storyshows the answers are not

set in absolute rights and wrongs.I can relate to exactly what his

feelings might have toward hisfamily. How can I truly love them when

I walk in ignorance?Considering things this way I chose to realize it

was truly in hislove he set out on his journey. He knew he wanted to

love, to beresponsibly conscious - in a much deeper way than he

already was.He no doubt gathered great wisdom in his unfolding. He

appreciated hemust fully know the gem of consciousness within himself

to make adifference.To stay, indeed he may have been the father and

husband that familyknew not thereafter. They did become devotees when

he became thatteacher, and what value came to them then? Perhaps

little. Perhaps allthe vast difference of lives transpired in

ignorance or in theinspiration of illumination Did he have to go to

do that? He saw it so. Did he think he left them behind? For a time,

a time he knew would be the end to

timeT./join

"Love itself is

the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam"

by Suri Nagamma