Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 , Harsha wrote: > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, "I am not real Madhava!" > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, it is > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- Knowing, > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and not > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems from > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the Self. > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the ego or > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we do not > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to others > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, forgiveness, > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the ocean > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The nature > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time the > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started to > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the Ocean! > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart but > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and the > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality rises > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind in > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as the > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing Knows It > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma>> Bravo! Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 , Harsha wrote: > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, "I am not real Madhava!" > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, it is > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self-Knowing, > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and not > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems from > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the Self. > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the ego or > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we do not > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to others > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, forgiveness, > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the ocean > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The nature > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time the > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started to > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the Ocean! > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart but > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and the > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality rises > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind in > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as the > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing Knows It > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. Dear Harsha: There is no Ramana. He is a figment of the imagination. There is no Harsha, no Fuzzie, no Gary, etc., etc. There is only being-awareness, the self. Thou art that. Yours, fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 , "fuzzie_wuz" <fuzzie_wuz> wrote: > , Harsha wrote: > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, "I am not real > Madhava!" > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, it is > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature of > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- Knowing, > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self and not > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems from > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the Self. > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the ego or > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply the > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we do > not > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both with > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to > others > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, forgiveness, > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of nonviolence. > > > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the > ocean > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The nature > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time the > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has started to > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the > Ocean! > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the Heart but > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart and the > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality rises > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the mind in > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present as the > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing > Knows It > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > Dear Harsha: > > There is no Ramana. He is a figment of the imagination. There is no > Harsha, no Fuzzie, no Gary, etc., etc. There is only being- awareness, > the self. Thou art that. > > Yours, > > fuzzie>> Bravo! Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 , "garyfalk1943" <falkgw@h...> wrote: > , "fuzzie_wuz" <fuzzie_wuz> > wrote: > > , Harsha wrote: > > > Sri Ramana once said to Madahva, his attendant, "I am not real > > Madhava!" > > > Bhagavan often pointed out that if we take Ramana to be the body, > it is > > > a mistake. Ramana is the Heart, the Self which is of the nature > of > > > consciousness, Existence, Bliss. It is the Bliss which is Self- > Knowing, > > > Self-Aware and free from sorrows. It is found in One's Own Self > and not > > > anywhere else. What is illusion? It must be something that stems > from > > > Reality. What is individuality? It is that which arises from the > Self. > > > So no need for resistance and no need to despise the mind or the > ego or > > > individuality for its limitations and weaknesses. It is simply > the > > > nature of things. If we understand the nature of things and are > > > accepting of our divinity and humanity as equally natural then we > do > > not > > > create artificial barriers in our mind. Becoming gentle, both > with > > > ourselves and with others, or at least having that perspective of > > > gentleness, allows us not to contend. A victory that is costly to > > others > > > is not a victory. Real strength always lies in good humor, > forgiveness, > > > and readiness to embrace. Self is the ultimate form of > nonviolence. > > > > > > A wave that rises high seems like it has become separate from the > > ocean > > > but in fact always has its foundation and home in the ocean. The > nature > > > of water in the wave and ocean is the same. A wave rises high and > > > appears to become separate. The fear is in the separation, in the > > > individual becoming separate from the whole. Then after some time > the > > > wave merges back. It is in that merging where the wave has > started to > > > fall back on the ocean that the wave realizes the Truth. I am the > > Ocean! > > > I have always been the Ocean! Similarly, the essence of the > > > individuality and the Self are the same. Mind rises from the > Heart but > > > is never separate from it. It is always supported by the Heart > and the > > > essence of the Heart permeates it as consciousness. Individuality > rises > > > from the Self and subsides back into it. On the merging of the > mind in > > > the Heart arises a Self - Knowing which has always been present > as the > > > undercurrent but now manifests to itself in full and overwhelming > > > force. Then the mind and the Heart become One and this Knowing > > Knows It > > > Self fully and completely as the Self. The One without a second. > > > > > > Dear Harsha: > > > > There is no Ramana. He is a figment of the imagination. There is no > > Harsha, no Fuzzie, no Gary, etc., etc. There is only being- > awareness, > > the self. Thou art that. > > > > Yours, > > > > fuzzie>> > > Bravo! Bravo! Dear Gary: Point taken. I bow to you. You are guru. Thanks. fuzzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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