Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Excerpt from "I Am That I Am" - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj Q: Then what am I? M: It is enough to know what you are not. You need not know what you are. For, as long as knowledge means description in terms of what is already known, perceptual, or conceptual, there can be no such thing as self-knowledge, for what you *are* cannot be described, except as total negation. All you can say is: `I am not this, I am not that'. You cannot meaningfully say `this is what I am.' It just makes no sense. What you can point out as `this' or `that' cannot be yourself. Surely, you cannot be `something' else. You are nothing perceivable, or imaginable. Yet, without you there can be neither perception nor imagination. You observe the heart feeling, the mind thinking, the body acting; the very act of perceiving shows you are not what you perceive. Can there be perception, experience, without you? An experience must `belong'. Somebody must come and declare it as his own. Without an experiencer the experience is not real. It is the experiencer that imparts reality to experience. An experience which you cannot have, of what value is it to you? Q: The sense of being an experiencer, the sense of `I am', is it not also an experience? M: Obviously, every thing experienced is an experience. And in every experience there arises the experiencer of it. Memory creates the illusion of continuity. In reality each experience has its own experiencer and the sense of identity is due to the common factor at the root of all experiencer-experience relations. Identity and continuity are not the same. Just as each flower has its own colour, but all colours are caused by the same light, so do many experiencers appear in the undivided and indivisible awareness, each separate in memory, identical in essence. This essence is the root, the foundation, the timeless and spaceless `possibility' of all experience. Q: How do I get at it? M: You need not get at it, for you *are* it. It will get at you, if you give it a chance. Let go your attachment to the unreal and the real will swiftly and smoothly step into its own. Stop imagining yourself being or doing this or that and the realization that you are the source and heart of all will dawn upon you. With this will come great love which is not choice nor predilection, nor attachment, but a power which makes all things love-worthy and loveable. ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, from "I Am That I Am" Love & Peace, Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 , "mazie_l" <sraddha54@h...> wrote: "If we talk of knowing the Self, there must be two selves, one a knowing self, another the self which is known, and the process of knowing. The state we call realisation is simply being oneself, not knowing anything or becoming anything. If one has realised, one is that which alone is and which alone has always been. One cannot describe that state. One can only be that. Of course, we loosely talk of Self- realisation, for want of a better term. How to 'real-ise' or make real that which alone is real?" ~ Sri Ramana Maharshi "...My gracious Lord, Teacher Ramana, True Wisdom's Flame, watches over me. Through His Glance alone he revealed to me that upsurge of Divine Love, sweet like the rich juice of a ripe mango, which is the Bliss and the blessing of the auspicious one who destroys illusion. ....Through the Grace of the Self which shines within the Heart, ....he gave me the gift of a greater Life lived in the Real." ~ http://uarelove1.tripod.com/REALIZATION.htm "We loosely talk of Self-realization, for lack of a better term. But how can one realize or make real that which alone is real? All we need to do is to give up our habit of regarding as real that which is unreal. All religious practices are meant solely to help us do this. When we stop regarding the unreal as real, then reality alone will remain, and we will be that." "'That inner Self, as the primeval Spirit, Eternal, ever effulgent, full and infinite Bliss, Single, indivisible, whole and living, Shines in everyone as the witnessing awareness. That self in its splendour, shining in the cavity of the heart This self is neither born nor dies, Neither grows nor decays, Nor does it suffer any change. When a pot is broken, the space within it is not, And similarly, when the body dies the Self in it remains eternal." "Every living being longs always to be happy, untainted by sorrow; and everyone has the greatest love for himself, which is solely due to the fact that happiness is his real nature. Hence, in order to realize that inherent and untainted happiness, which indeed he daily experiences when the mind is subdued in deep sleep, it is essential that he should know himself. For obtaining such knowledge the inquiry 'Who am I?' in quest of the Self is the best means." ~ The Collected Works of Sri Ramana Maharshi (Page 39, Samuel Weiser Edition 1977) Love & Peace, Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2005 Report Share Posted May 15, 2005 I love that. I am that. I am that I love. , "mazie_l" <sraddha54@h...> wrote: > Excerpt from "I Am That I Am" - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj > > > Q: Then what am I? > > M: It is enough to know what you are not. You need not know what you > are. For, as long as knowledge means description in terms of what is > already known, perceptual, or conceptual, there can be no such thing > as self-knowledge, for what you *are* cannot be described, except as > total negation. All you can say is: `I am not this, I am not that'. > You cannot meaningfully say `this is what I am.' It just makes no > sense. What you can point out as `this' or `that' cannot be yourself. > Surely, you cannot be `something' else. You are nothing perceivable, > or imaginable. Yet, without you there can be neither perception nor > imagination. You observe the heart feeling, the mind thinking, the > body acting; the very act of perceiving shows you are not what you > perceive. Can there be perception, experience, without you? An > experience must `belong'. Somebody must come and declare it as his > own. Without an experiencer the experience is not real. It is the > experiencer that imparts reality to experience. An experience which > you cannot have, of what value is it to you? > > Q: The sense of being an experiencer, the sense of `I am', is it not > also an experience? > > M: Obviously, every thing experienced is an experience. And in every > experience there arises the experiencer of it. Memory creates the > illusion of continuity. In reality each experience has its own > experiencer and the sense of identity is due to the common factor at > the root of all experiencer-experience relations. Identity and > continuity are not the same. Just as each flower has its own colour, > but all colours are caused by the same light, so do many experiencers > appear in the undivided and indivisible awareness, each separate in > memory, identical in essence. This essence is the root, the > foundation, the timeless and spaceless `possibility' of all > experience. > > Q: How do I get at it? > > M: You need not get at it, for you *are* it. It will get at you, if > you give it a chance. Let go your attachment to the unreal and the > real will swiftly and smoothly step into its own. Stop imagining > yourself being or doing this or that and the realization that you are > the source and heart of all will dawn upon you. With this will come > great love which is not choice nor predilection, nor attachment, but > a power which makes all things love-worthy and loveable. > > ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, from "I Am That I Am" > > > > Love & Peace, > > Mazie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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