Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Thanks John. The spiritual path is difficult from one perspective because the Self, the ultimate Reality that we are, is not clear to us. As a mind/body we are subject to the whims of nature and circumstances (karma). This clouds understanding. So the Guru is needed to tell us that our nature is not that of the body which is subject to natural forces but of Atman and the nature of Atman is Being-Awareness resting in its own nature. Patanjali says the same thing about the nature of the Self. Ultimately the Seer rests in his own nature. That is the highest Samadhi. Self is Samadhi. Self is Nirvikalpa, beyond imagination and thought. Self is Sahaj or natural and always visible to itself despite imagination and thought. In Hinduism, the Reality is often referred to as Satyam-Shivam-Sundram. Truth-Consciousness-Beauty. That which is of the nature of the ultimate truth, pure consciousness, and the essence of beauty is the Self. One's own Self. It is of such overwhelming beauty because the devotee who worships the God or the Self with all love and might and with desperation suddenly realizes that the devotee and God are in essence identical. The seeker had been looking for something that constituted the core of his very own Being. Imagine the shock! That Realization is one of overwhelming beauty. It is empty of all concepts but of the nature of fullness. Sat-Chit-Ananda. All beauty. Love to all Harsha John Logan wrote: > Absolutely correct. > It has been so since timeless time. > > Until the physical guru appears, everything which occurs to the > sincere seeker IS the guru. > > I can hear Ramana Maharshi asking: "Who is the one asking for the > guru? Who is this I?" > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 yes. the guru is the thorn used to remove the thorn, after which both are discarded... the thorn of identity with a name and form is removed by the apparent form of guru's name/form. and everything, being the apparent reflection of the seeker's mind, is in truth the guru... there is nothing but the self - John Logan Monday, May 16, 2005 2:20 AM Re: Guru Available Absolutely correct. It has been so since timeless time.Until the physical guru appears, everything which occurs to the sincere seeker IS the guru.I can hear Ramana Maharshi asking: "Who is the one asking for the guru? Who is this I?", michael bindel <michael_bindel> wrote:> > Letters and Comments > > Guru Available> > In our initial correspondence, I had asked if there was anyone available to assist with the "Who Am I?" meditation. You indicated that you knew of no one in Oregon that I could contact and that I should pray to Sri Ramana Maharshi. I am sure that was/is good advice, but Ramana Maharshi himself said that the process was not possible without a Guru. I find that to be true. Is there anyone in North American that is of the Guru status and has realized the Self? If so, is he/she available? If not, is there such a person at the Arunachala Ashram? > > Thank you for your assistance on this matter. > > - Oregon, USA > > Sri Maharshi did say that a Guru was necessary. He also said that the Guru may not be external, as in his case. Again, upon his physical demise he also said that he was not leaving, as he was never identified with the body; meaning, he is present even now. > > The truth is that no one can give us liberation. The way can be pointed out, directions can be given. Our intense earnestness and total dedication to the goal is the most essential factor. If we become obsessed with this one thing-realizing Truth-Truth, a physical Guru (if necessary) and all else will be drawn to us automatically. The Guru will come to us when we are ready. We simply need to attend to making ourselves ready and the rest is automatic. For those with faith in the Maharshi's living presence there are no doubts in this matter. > > Other than the above, there is no other advice we can give you regarding the Guru. We know this to be the true and proven method. - Editor > > THE MAHARSHI> > > > > > > September/October 2000> Vol. 10 - No. 5> > > > Produced & Edited by> Dennis Hartel> Dr. Anil K. Sharma> > > > > > > > > > > Mail Mobile> Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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