RE: Ramana was not a jnani. What was he then?

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[] On Behalf Of devianandi

Sunday, June 05, 2005 11:01

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[ - Ramana

Guru] Re: Ramana was not a jnani. What was he then?

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<fuzzie_wuz> wrote:

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"garyfalk1943"

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"fuzzie_wuz"

<fuzzie_wuz>

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SNIP

Ø This is not rocket

science. What is the problem?

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> fuzzie

devi: you always seem to leave out that while

there is no individual

self..there is the Universal Self...:-)

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color:blue">There are various valid truths that may seem to be

contradictory. Some people say that individuals exist and other persons

say not. Even certain scriptures and revered personages make

contradictory statements on this subject and others. Here are a few

quotes from the Bhagavad Gita on action and individuality.

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color:blue">All work is performed by the gunas of Prakriti. But he whose

mind is deluded by egotism thinks, “I am the doer.” But, O

mighty Arjuna, he who knows the truth about the gunas and action, and what is

distinct from them, holds himself unattached, perceiving that it is the gunas

that are occupied with the gunas. Those who are deluded by the gunas of

Prakriti attach themselves to the actions that those gunas prompt.

Nevertheless let no man who knows the whole unsettle the minds of the

dull-witted, who know only a part. Bhagavad Gita: 3:27-29

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color:blue">And whatever things there be---of the nature of sattva, rajas, and

tamas—know they are all from Me alone. I am not, however, in them;

they are in Me. Bhagavad Gita: 7:12

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color:blue">I, O Arjuna, know the beings that are of the past, that are of the

present, and that are to come; but Me no one knows. All beings from their

very birth, O Bharata, are deluded by the spell of the pairs of opposites

arising from desire and aversion. But the men of virtuous deeds, whose

sin is ended, are free from the delusion of the pairs and worship Me with firm

resolve. Those who take refuge in Me to gain release from old age and

death—they will come to know Brahman, they will come to know all about the

individual soul, and all about action as well. Those who know Me as the

One that underlies all the elements, as the One that underlies all the gods,

and as the One that sustains all the sacrifices, will, with steadfast mind,

know Me even in the hour of death. Bhagavad Gita: 7:26-30

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