re: Ramana was not a jnani. What was he then? / devianandi

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, "devianandi" <polansky@m...>

wrote:

> I agree with Yosy. This whole guru ego trip of "I'm a jnani and

> you're not" is about as dualistic as it gets.

>

> No one is enlightened. To say someone is personally enlightened or

> personally realized is an oxymoron. There is no separate "person"

to

> realize anything; that is enlightenment. No one owns it; no one

> possesses it. It just is.

>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> fuzzie

>

> meher baba: The Infinite Reality in the God-realized soul has

> the knowledge of its own Infinity; but such knowledge does not

> belong to the unrealized soul, still subject to the illusion of the

> universe. If God-realization were not a personal attainment, the

> entire universe would come to an end as soon as one man attained

God-

> realization. This does not happen, because God-realization is a

> personal state of consciousness belonging to the one who has

> transcended the domain of the mind. Others continue to remain in

> bondage, and can attain it only by freeing their consciousness from

> the burden of the ego and the limitations of the individual mind.

> Thus God-realization has a direct significance only for the one who

> has emerged from the time-process.

>

> http://www.beezone.com/GodtoMan/chapter_iii_god_realizatio.html

 

 

yes. the attainment is personal; the realization isn't.

 

as long as there is an individual "i", there is also the creation and

god. they arise and merge together.

 

yosy