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Emanuele De Benedetti

Monday, June 06, 2005 1:33 PM

Re: re: Ramana was not a

jnani. What was he then? / devianandi

Yosy what the difference between sayingthat attainment is personal and

realisation is notand saying that realisation and attainment is not

personalbut it is happening in consciousness in a specific body mind

location?What is that personal attainment as opposed to impersonal

realisation?Marifa

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the realization is not personal, in that the 'personal' is realized to

be illusory and never-existing... even "what is", "that" - cannot be

said to exist, since truth is all including, beyond any duality of

"existence" and "non-existence" etc and there is none to experience

"it"... and has nothing to do with 'specific body mind location'.

this is beyond the scope of words and mind, thus any attempts to

describe it inevitably lead to misunderstandings and pointless

discussions. but the attainment/aspiration is individual/personal;

and the omnipresent is always the self, the one without a second.

yosy

"truth" said nasrudin, "is something i never said - nor will i..."

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