Guest guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Giovanni, If one feels drawn to self-enquiry, it means that ripening has already taken place through the working of His Grace and Mercy. In Ramana, Udit >"Giovanni Kakugen" <kakugen > ><atma_vichara>, ><>,<RamanaMaharshi>,<The_Sage_of_\ Arunachala> > Question abou Self-enquiry >Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:10:30 -0300 > > > > > Hello friends, > > I`m new to this group and a devotee of Sri Ramana. There is >one practical thing is His teachings that it is still not so clear to me. >Sometimes he says that atma-vichara is for the ones who are prepared - for >the "riped souls" - and in other ocasions he says that atma vichara is for >anyone who fells drawn or attracted to such practice. > I personally feel very attracted to self-enquiry - as I`m >trying to practice it now - but for sure I`m not a "ripe" or mature soul. >So my question is: should I continue atma vichara or should I first devote >myself to some "preliminar" practices and exercices (like meditation on my >breath, neti-neti, "I am He", etc.)? Does anybdy know any quotation of the >Maharshi which clarifies this? > >Yours in Bhagavan, >Giovanni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Giovanni Kakugen Monday, July 04, 2005 6:11 AM atma_vichara; ; RamanaMaharshi; The_Sage_of_Arunachala [ - Ramana Guru] Question abou Self-enquiry 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Hello friends, 12.0pt"> I`m new to this group and a devotee of Sri Ramana. There is one practical thing is His teachings that it is still not so clear to me. Sometimes he says that atma-vichara is for the ones who are prepared - for the "riped souls" - and in other ocasions he says that atma vichara is for anyone who fells drawn or attracted to such practice. 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue"> I personally feel very attracted to self-enquiry - as I`m trying to practice it now - but for sure I`m not a "ripe" or mature soul. So my question is: should I continue atma vichara or should I first devote myself to some "preliminar" practices and exercices (like meditation on my breath, neti-neti, "I am He", etc.)? Does anybdy know any quotation of the Maharshi which clarifies this? Dear Friend, There are those persons who need to practice some kind of spiritual discipline, and there are those rare souls who do not need to practice. Many persons seem to satisfy themselves by tinkering with philosophy and speculation. But for those who pursue spiritual practices, in order for that particular practice to be effective, one should practice it whole heartedly and without any doubt. The main object of sadhana is to overcome conditioning. This conditioning is so strong and pervasive that only an obstinate persistence in practice will result in the ultimate success. You obviously have respect for the teachings of Ramana Maharshi and you feel attracted to atma-vichara. Now, either practice that with all your heart and strength, or call upon your inner self, like a child calling for its mother, and ask that divine guidance within you what you should do. By asking persons such as ourselves, you will receive all kinds of guidance and suggestions. Also, in the body of literature associated with Ramana Maharshi you will find all kinds of answers. There is something for everyone. You can find almost anything that you want to find there. But I tell you something true: the imperishable, almighty SELF, in the form of the inner guru lives within you. It recognizes the sincere desire of the devotee and will never fail to guide you and to answer you. The only requirement is a sincere longing. Once you receive the inner guidance, nothing can stop you. Love to you, michael 12.0pt"> /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 - Michael Bowes Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:09 AM RE: Question abou Self-enquiry [] On Behalf Of Giovanni KakugenMonday, July 04, 2005 6:11 AMTo: atma_vichara; ; RamanaMaharshi; The_Sage_of_ArunachalaSubject: [ - Ramana Guru] Question abou Self-enquiry Hello friends, I`m new to this group and a devotee of Sri Ramana. There is one practical thing is His teachings that it is still not so clear to me. Sometimes he says that atma-vichara is for the ones who are prepared - for the "riped souls" - and in other ocasions he says that atma vichara is for anyone who fells drawn or attracted to such practice. I personally feel very attracted to self-enquiry - as I`m trying to practice it now - but for sure I`m not a "ripe" or mature soul. So my question is: should I continue atma vichara or should I first devote myself to some "preliminar" practices and exercices (like meditation on my breath, neti-neti, "I am He", etc.)? Does anybdy know any quotation of the Maharshi which clarifies this? Dear Friend, There are those persons who need to practice some kind of spiritual discipline, and there are those rare souls who do not need to practice. Many persons seem to satisfy themselves by tinkering with philosophy and speculation. But for those who pursue spiritual practices, in order for that particular practice to be effective, one should practice it whole heartedly and without any doubt. The main object of sadhana is to overcome conditioning. This conditioning is so strong and pervasive that only an obstinate persistence in practice will result in the ultimate success. You obviously have respect for the teachings of Ramana Maharshi and you feel attracted to atma-vichara. Now, either practice that with all your heart and strength, or call upon your inner self, like a child calling for its mother, and ask that divine guidance within you what you should do. By asking persons such as ourselves, you will receive all kinds of guidance and suggestions. Also, in the body of literature associated with Ramana Maharshi you will find all kinds of answers. There is something for everyone. You can find almost anything that you want to find there. But I tell you something true: the imperishable, almighty SELF, in the form of the inner guru lives within you. It recognizes the sincere desire of the devotee and will never fail to guide you and to answer you. The only requirement is a sincere longing. Once you receive the inner guidance, nothing can stop you. Love to you, michael from Anna: Your Self is your seeking Who you would Love and Who loves you This Way, Your Seeking Heart -Way. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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