Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 besides "i fell in love" with the eyes of SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI when i saw them the first time on a book cover reading about his behaviour makes me STILL This is the way we all should be i f we want to be what in jewish folklore they call "i wish you to be a Mensch" mensch = human being a Mensch a real human being as more i stick to the inner being the more i accept my being a little child - because of this quality my mother and exwife wanted to "protect" me They thought i have some inborn defect What is true of course for the socalled normal humans.... Strange but true my respect in every sense for every animal is growing incredible one of the reasons is that i have the Grace to live with my wife Sylvie who became a cat breeder (in "our way" ie choosing the clients if they are okay for the animal..... sure you understand me this way you can never become "rich") but rich we are because living with them and with all our outside animals gives us so much------ i love the stories about Lakshmi the cow...... i loved cows when being 8 years had an incredible contact to them.... thank you for your letter dear one be hugged and absorb the love in GD michael Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Yes Gloria, we have to learn to be more responsible. You know a good yogi is suppose to eat only 3 morsels and that too 1/2 salted food? They cannot pluck fruit from tree it has to fall then they can have. VjGloria Lee <glee (AT) citlink (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Michael, A reply of sorts welled up in me, in that I think this tells us a great deal about ourselves, about how it is only from our point of view that intent would matter. Does the hornet know or care if it is accidental or deliberate? Ramana has said there is neither free will, nor destiny. So in his mind the very question would be moot, wouldn't it? Something similar to this struck me when I picked up a rock and "accidentally" disturbed a nest of ants. They went scurrying off trying to rescue their babies, the unhatched larvae, each one carrying a white wormy egg, and looking so maternal and concerned. Anyone with a heart would have felt sorry to have intruded, and I replaced the rock gently. We intrude into nature in so many ways, large and small, without thinking of consequences. I think Ramana simply took responsibility for his accidental acts as well. Thanks for the article, Gloria - michael bindel atma_vichara ; ; millionpaths ; namoramana ; ; the_sage_of_arunachala Monday, July 11, 2005 11:23 PM [MillionPaths] Apology to Hornets Apology to Hornets Also of note is the question-verse by Muruganar that elicited the following verse from Bhagavan: When I was stung by hornets in revenge Upon the leg until it was inflamed, Although it was by chance I stepped upon Their nest, constructed in a leafy bush;What kind of mind is his if he does not At least repent for doing such a wrong? The “Apology to the Hornets” verse pertains to the incident that occurred during theVirupaksha Cave days. One day Bhagavan was walking around the hill alone, went into the forest not to far from the Pachaiamman Temple, saw a huge banyan-tree leaf drift across his path, which reminded him of the sloka from the Arunachala Purnam that tells of the banyan tree under which the Arunagiri Yogi was seated. He started walking in the direction from which the leaf came and saw a large tree on an elevated spot and, while proceeding towards it, his thigh brushed against a hornets nest. Bhagavan appeared to feel remorse for disturbing the nest and stood still to allow the hornets to sting him to their heart’s content. He then left the area and slowly made his way back to Virupaksha Cave by nightfall, with a badly swollen thigh and leg. After this incident there was much speculation about the giant banyan tree, its location and the Arunagiri Yogi. Bhagavan never again felt inclined to look for the tree, for reasons he never clearly explained. This added even more intrigue to the incident. He also, unsuccessfully, warned others not to go looking for it, and that is another story. Muruganar seemed puzzled why Bhagavan should feel remorse for an accidental incident, something destined, with no ill will intended. In verse, he questioned Bhagavan thus: Sighting an overgrown, green-leaved bush, andWhen stepping on it and stung by hornets to have legs swollen, Venkata, in truth, why was an accidental intrusionTreated without mercy, just as a wanton transgression? THE MAHARSHI March/April 2004Vol. 14 - No. 2 Produced & Edited byDennis HartelDr. Anil K. Sharma Sell on Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Poor Yogi. He may be free from the body-mind-ego complex... but we want to trap him into some norms which please us. Sachin ---- Vijaya Raghavan 07/13/05 14:48:35 Re: Re: [MillionPaths] Apology to Hornets Yes Gloria, we have to learn to be more responsible. You know a good yogi is suppose to eat only 3 morsels and that too 1/2 salted food? They cannot pluck fruit from tree it has to fall then they can have. VjGloria Lee <glee (AT) citlink (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Michael, A reply of sorts welled up in me, in that I think this tells us a great deal about ourselves, about how it is only from our point of view that intent would matter. Does the hornet know or care if it is accidental or deliberate? Ramana has said there is neither free will, nor destiny. So in his mind the very question would be moot, wouldn't it? Something similar to this struck me when I picked up a rock and "accidentally" disturbed a nest of ants. They went scurrying off trying to rescue their babies, the unhatched larvae, each one carrying a white wormy egg, and looking so maternal and concerned. Anyone with a heart would have felt sorry to have intruded, and I replaced the rock gently. We intrude into nature in so many ways, large and small, without thinking of consequences. I think Ramana simply took responsibility for his accidental acts as well. Thanks for the article, Gloria - michael bindel atma_vichara ; ; millionpaths ; namoramana ; ; the_sage_of_arunachala Monday, July 11, 2005 11:23 PM [MillionPaths] Apology to Hornets Apology to Hornets Also of note is the question-verse by Muruganar that elicited the following verse from Bhagavan: When I was stung by hornets in revenge Upon the leg until it was inflamed, Although it was by chance I stepped upon Their nest, constructed in a leafy bush;What kind of mind is his if he does not At least repent for doing such a wrong? The “Apology to the Hornets” verse pertains to the incident that occurred during theVirupaksha Cave days. One day Bhagavan was walking around the hill alone, went into the forest not to far from the Pachaiamman Temple, saw a huge banyan-tree leaf drift across his path, which reminded him of the sloka from the Arunachala Purnam that tells of the banyan tree under which the Arunagiri Yogi was seated. He started walking in the direction from which the leaf came and saw a large tree on an elevated spot and, while proceeding towards it, his thigh brushed against a hornets nest. Bhagavan appeared to feel remorse for disturbing the nest and stood still to allow the hornets to sting him to their heart’s content. He then left the area and slowly made his way back to Virupaksha Cave by nightfall, with a badly swollen thigh and leg. After this incident there was much speculation about the giant banyan tree, its location and the Arunagiri Yogi. Bhagavan never again felt inclined to look for the tree, for reasons he never clearly explained. This added even more intrigue to the incident. He also, unsuccessfully, warned others not to go looking for it, and that is another story. Muruganar seemed puzzled why Bhagavan should feel remorse for an accidental incident, something destined, with no ill will intended. In verse, he questioned Bhagavan thus: Sighting an overgrown, green-leaved bush, andWhen stepping on it and stung by hornets to have legs swollen, Venkata, in truth, why was an accidental intrusionTreated without mercy, just as a wanton transgression? THE MAHARSHI March/April 2004Vol. 14 - No. 2 Produced & Edited byDennis HartelDr. Anil K. Sharma Sell on Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi VJ and everyone 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Joyce posted earlier on list manners. Please reread that post. One liners and short posts are good now and then but we want deep stuff here. Silence is good too. 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">More Deep stuff less chit chat 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Harsha 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Vijaya Raghavan Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:14 AM Re: [ - Ramana Guru] Re: [MillionPaths] Apology to Hornets 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Yes Gloria, we have to learn to be more responsible. You know a good yogi is suppose to eat 12.0pt">only 3 morsels and that too 1/2 salted food? They cannot pluck fruit from tree it has to fall 12.0pt">then they can have. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Vj Gloria Lee <glee (AT) citlink (DOT) net> wrote: margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> font-family:Garamond">Dear Michael, 12.0pt"> font-family:Garamond">A reply of sorts welled up in me, in that I think this tells us a great deal about ourselves, about how it is only from our point of view that intent would matter. Does the hornet know or care if it is accidental or deliberate? font-family:Garamond">Ramana has said there is neither free will, nor destiny. So in his mind the very question would be moot, wouldn't it? 12.0pt"> font-family:Garamond">Something similar to this struck me when I picked up a rock and "accidentally" disturbed a nest of ants. They went scurrying off trying to rescue their babies, the unhatched larvae, each one carrying a white wormy egg, and looking so maternal and concerned. Anyone with a heart would have felt sorry to have intruded, and I replaced the rock gently. We intrude into nature in so many ways, large and small, without thinking of consequences. I think Ramana simply took responsibility for his accidental acts as well. 12.0pt"> font-family:Garamond">Thanks for the article, font-family:Garamond">Gloria 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">- margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> michael bindel font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">atma_vichara ; ; millionpaths ; namoramana ; ; the_sage_of_arunachala font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Monday, July 11, 2005 11:23 PM font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">[MillionPaths] Apology to Hornets 12.0pt"> color:fuchsia;font-style:italic">Apology to Hornets font-family:Arial">Also of note is the question-verse by Muruganar that elicited the following verse from Bhagavan: color:fuchsia;font-style:italic"> color:fuchsia;font-style:italic">When I was stung by hornets in revenge Upon the leg until it was inflamed, Although it was by chance I stepped upon Their nest, constructed in a leafy bush; What kind of mind is his if he does not At least repent for doing such a wrong? font-family:Arial"> font-family:Arial">The “Apology to the Hornets” verse pertains to the incident that occurred during theVirupaksha Cave days. font-family:Arial">One day Bhagavan was walking around the hill alone, went into the forest not to far from the Pachaiamman Temple, saw a huge banyan-tree leaf drift across his path, which reminded him of the sloka from the Arunachala Purnam that tells of the banyan tree under which the Arunagiri Yogi was seated. He started walking in the direction from which the leaf came and saw a large tree on an elevated spot and, while proceeding towards it, his thigh brushed against a hornets nest. Bhagavan appeared to feel remorse for disturbing the nest and stood still to allow the hornets to sting him to their heart’s content. He then left the area and slowly made his way back to Virupaksha Cave by nightfall, with a badly swollen thigh and leg. font-family:Arial">After this incident there was much speculation about the giant banyan tree, its location and the Arunagiri Yogi. Bhagavan never again felt inclined to look for the tree, for reasons he never clearly explained. This added even more intrigue to the incident. He also, unsuccessfully, warned others not to go looking for it, and that is another story. Muruganar seemed puzzled why Bhagavan should feel remorse for an accidental incident, something destined, with no ill will intended. font-family:Arial">In verse, he questioned Bhagavan thus: Sighting an overgrown, green-leaved bush, and When stepping on it and stung by hornets to have legs swollen, Venkata, in truth, why was an accidental intrusion Treated without mercy, just as a wanton transgression? font-style:italic"> color:#006600">THE MAHARSHI 7.5pt"> March/April 2004 Vol. 14 - No. 2 Verdana;color:#006600"> color:black"> color:#006600">Produced & Edited by Dennis Hartel Dr. Anil K. Sharma color:fuchsia"> 12.0pt">Sell on Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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