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Detachment is when you first experience non-objective awareness. You

"hear" the Truth that all light, all seeing comes from the seer, the

subject "I" and you awaken. It's similar to understanding that the

picture on the screen of a movie is made possible by the light that

projects through a film and lens, and that without the light there is

nothing to see, nothing to know, no being. The film represents the

stored impressions of the mind. The lens represents the power of the

mind to focus. Realizing that you are the seer and not the images

seen, suddenly you awaken, like coming out of a progressive amnesia.

The images are still there, you might say in abeyance, but you are

"Detached" from them. You no longer use the focusing power of the

mind to see or bind images to the sense of identity. With this

experience also comes the pulsing of the "I" - the atma-sphurana.

This means that instead of "I" recognizing itself in relationship to

an image appearing in the mind, the mind has been drawn inward and

now reflects the Self, so you have "I - I." By correlation, this is

also what yogis call the anahat, the soundless sound that

reverberates at the core of ones being and draws the mind inward.

Once this "I - I" emerges into one's consciousness, It acts like a

graviton, sucking everything inwards, inexorable, relentless, and in

the process burns off latent impressions, so that you feel a sense of

ever increasing radiance, not just in the para nadi between the

Hrdayam and Sahasrara, but throughout the nadi system. To use

Christ's explanation:

"The eye (the seer) is the light of the body. When your eye (that part

that sees) is single (non-objective awareness), your whole body will

be filled with Light." Luke 11:34

Eventually, the impurities or dross is burned off and the sense of

"detachment" dissolves as well, leaving over "non-attachment." The

feeling of the "I" pulsing as "I" is one of detaching or

relinquishment of even silence, emptiness and purity. In this sense

of being Transfigured, or Grounded in expanse of Radiance, there are

subtle recognitions of the Truth of one's Self that emerge, where

rising from the core of ones being, full of Wisdom, comes the

thought, "...... uncaused," then ".... unconditioned," then

".......without time," then "..... space-like," which are the

expression of the state of utter purity beyond purity of the True

Self, which is who you are, who I am, without distinction, without

separation, undifferentiated consciousness.

In this process of the pulsing of the "I" comes occasional total

delinking of the images from the "I" wherein one experiences

non-attachment. At these times, the view of the body might be one of

seeing the Hrdayam and crown radiating, along with the atma nadi

between incandescently, while a multicolored flame rises up through

the spine and through the top of the head. There are thoughts but no

thinker, actions but no doer, everything just happens. Ideas such as

attachment, detachment and non-attachment, have no meaning

whatsoever.

Third Zen Patriarch: "Everything is empty clear, self-illuminating,

with no exertion of the mind's power."

In the practice of Kundalini Yoga, this process is called One Star

Spirituality, referencing the One Star in the Heart that acts like a

graviton while outshining everything. In this Sadhana, postures and

movements are combined with various kinds of powerful breathing

techniques and amplified sound techniques to gradually fill the

entire nadi system with increasing life force or voltage. In the

process, the nadi's like filaments in a light bulb begin to radiate,

and a sense of pervading de-contractions spreads through the body,

dissolving the encoding of latent impressions that bind the mind's

images and impressions to the body. Awareness shifts from being

focuses on varied images to single and pervasive. Suddenly, the

deepening radiance "impacts" with the absorbing de-contracting

irradiance of the Self, and you abide as transfigured single

pervasive consciousness. Every Kundalini Yoga exercise has an active

and passive aspect, the active aspect to generate voltage, the passive

to release the secretion of the glands to support that voltage. In

the process the vibratory frequency of the body rises above the

frequency of thoughts and a penetrating electromagnetic force

pervades through the body stilling the mind. Gradually, the mind

detaches from focused awareness, and experiences pervasiveness in and

around the body. As time passes, the voltage deepens and penetrates

and you experience a sense of pervading penetrating radiance that

de-contacts tensions and pressures you never knew existed, unraveling

the knots that bind the mind in patterns of thoughts and projected

images.

As awareness becomes electric pervasive, you experience the radiance

of the nadis in the same way as one experiences the body if one were

to fall asleep. This means that you see with your consciousness.

Man's consciousness passes through and illumines the mind and in turn

illumines the senses, so that we seem to see and know through the

senses, but as we begin to experience electric radiance throughout

and the body, we begin to discover that seeing actually originates

from Consciousness Itself, and not through the senses or even the

mind. But, as the nadis of the body become brighter, they begin to

illumine the inside and space around the body, which emerges into

awareness without the senses. With this emergence comes the

discovery that who I am is pervasive awareness, not localized to the

body ad mind. Again, this process continues to deepen until ones'

individual unit of consciousness "impacts" with the Universal

Consciousness, which entirely reveals the Truth. At that moment, the

"I" pulses as "I."

The impacting of the individual unit of Consciousness (Atman) with the

Universal Consciousness (Bhraman) usually happens when the mind

reaches this level of purity that when one is read a story about the

life and teachings of a Self-Realized being, one's true self "hears"

Itself described and recognizing Itself in the Words, awakens, shrugs

off the previously felt dim sense of identity to thoughts, images and

sensations, and abides in It's original undifferentiated state.

The core teachings and systems advocated by all the religions and

yogas are essentially the same, only from the limited perspective of

the practitioner, other yogas and religions seem to be inadequate.

Nevertheless, once one "hears" the Truth and experiences one's Self

as That Truth, all distinctions between these religions dissolve, and

one realizes that it is the One Self that has brought forth all these

in order to draw the minds inward. Then the True meaning of the

Words of the seemingly different Religions, yoga systems, languages

and cultures is discovered to be expressing the same one Truth.

----

Jason James Morgan

08/02/05 06:38:08

MillionPaths

[MillionPaths] Re: Sri. Ramana's interpertation

Hello,

Something that camed to mind when I read this.

Detachment = kevala

Non-attatchment = sahaja

JJM

----

Xan

08/02/05 06:48:23

MillionPaths

[MillionPaths] Re: Sri. Ramana's interpertation

Hari Om,

Would anyone explain the difference between Detachment and Non-attachment.??

There appears to be a subtle difference between the two.

If something seperates, we say it is detached.

But a drop of water on a Lotus leaf, we say it is Non-Attached.

```````

~ The drop of water on the leaf was never part of the leaf... never attached.

As we have identified/merged with our conditioning, in order to become

free we become separate from it by seeing the ego-mind with

objectivity, from a little distance.

```````

With, Jai Guru Dev,

Jason

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Pieter, what is the source of this writing? Thank you.

 

, "Pieter" <pietersa@l...> wrote:

> Detachment is when you first experience non-objective awareness.

You "hear" the Truth that all light, all seeing comes from the seer,

the subject "I" and you awaken. It's similar to understanding that

the picture on the screen of a movie is made possible by the light

that projects through a film and lens, and that without the light

there is nothing to see, nothing to know, no being. The film

represents the stored impressions of the mind. The lens represents

the power of the mind to focus. Realizing that you are the seer and

not the images seen, suddenly you awaken, like coming out of a

progressive amnesia. The images are still there, you might say in

abeyance, but you are "Detached" from them. You no longer use the

focusing power of the mind to see or bind images to the sense of

identity. With this experience also comes the pulsing of the "I" -

the atma-sphurana. This means that instead of "I" recognizing itself

in relationship to an image appearing in the mind, the mind has been

drawn inward and now reflects the Self, so you have "I - I." By

correlation, this is also what yogis call the anahat, the soundless

sound that reverberates at the core of ones being and draws the mind

inward.

>

> Once this "I - I" emerges into one's consciousness, It acts like a

graviton, sucking everything inwards, inexorable, relentless, and in

the process burns off latent impressions, so that you feel a sense of

ever increasing radiance, not just in the para nadi between the

Hrdayam and Sahasrara, but throughout the nadi system. To use

Christ's explanation:

>

> "The eye (the seer) is the light of the body. When your eye (that

part that sees) is single (non-objective awareness), your whole body

will be filled with Light." Luke 11:34

>

> Eventually, the impurities or dross is burned off and the sense

of "detachment" dissolves as well, leaving over "non-attachment."

The feeling of the "I" pulsing as "I" is one of detaching or

relinquishment of even silence, emptiness and purity. In this sense

of being Transfigured, or Grounded in expanse of Radiance, there are

subtle recognitions of the Truth of one's Self that emerge, where

rising from the core of ones being, full of Wisdom, comes the

thought, "...... uncaused," then ".... unconditioned,"

then ".......without time," then "..... space-like," which are the

expression of the state of utter purity beyond purity of the True

Self, which is who you are, who I am, without distinction, without

separation, undifferentiated consciousness.

>

> In this process of the pulsing of the "I" comes occasional total

delinking of the images from the "I" wherein one experiences non-

attachment. At these times, the view of the body might be one of

seeing the Hrdayam and crown radiating, along with the atma nadi

between incandescently, while a multicolored flame rises up through

the spine and through the top of the head. There are thoughts but no

thinker, actions but no doer, everything just happens. Ideas such as

attachment, detachment and non-attachment, have no meaning whatsoever.

>

> Third Zen Patriarch: "Everything is empty clear, self-illuminating,

with no exertion of the mind's power."

>

> In the practice of Kundalini Yoga, this process is called One Star

Spirituality, referencing the One Star in the Heart that acts like a

graviton while outshining everything. In this Sadhana, postures and

movements are combined with various kinds of powerful breathing

techniques and amplified sound techniques to gradually fill the

entire nadi system with increasing life force or voltage. In the

process, the nadi's like filaments in a light bulb begin to radiate,

and a sense of pervading de-contractions spreads through the body,

dissolving the encoding of latent impressions that bind the mind's

images and impressions to the body. Awareness shifts from being

focuses on varied images to single and pervasive. Suddenly, the

deepening radiance "impacts" with the absorbing de-contracting

irradiance of the Self, and you abide as transfigured single

pervasive consciousness. Every Kundalini Yoga exercise has an active

and passive aspect, the active aspect to generate voltage, the

passive to release the secretion of the glands to support that

voltage. In the process the vibratory frequency of the body rises

above the frequency of thoughts and a penetrating electromagnetic

force pervades through the body stilling the mind. Gradually, the

mind detaches from focused awareness, and experiences pervasiveness

in and around the body. As time passes, the voltage deepens and

penetrates and you experience a sense of pervading penetrating

radiance that de-contacts tensions and pressures you never knew

existed, unraveling the knots that bind the mind in patterns of

thoughts and projected images.

>

> As awareness becomes electric pervasive, you experience the

radiance of the nadis in the same way as one experiences the body if

one were to fall asleep. This means that you see with your

consciousness. Man's consciousness passes through and illumines the

mind and in turn illumines the senses, so that we seem to see and

know through the senses, but as we begin to experience electric

radiance throughout and the body, we begin to discover that seeing

actually originates from Consciousness Itself, and not through the

senses or even the mind. But, as the nadis of the body become

brighter, they begin to illumine the inside and space around the

body, which emerges into awareness without the senses. With this

emergence comes the discovery that who I am is pervasive awareness,

not localized to the body ad mind. Again, this process continues to

deepen until ones' individual unit of consciousness "impacts" with

the Universal Consciousness, which entirely reveals the Truth. At

that moment, the "I" pulses as "I."

>

> The impacting of the individual unit of Consciousness (Atman) with

the Universal Consciousness (Bhraman) usually happens when the mind

reaches this level of purity that when one is read a story about the

life and teachings of a Self-Realized being, one's true self "hears"

Itself described and recognizing Itself in the Words, awakens, shrugs

off the previously felt dim sense of identity to thoughts, images and

sensations, and abides in It's original undifferentiated state.

>

> The core teachings and systems advocated by all the religions and

yogas are essentially the same, only from the limited perspective of

the practitioner, other yogas and religions seem to be inadequate.

Nevertheless, once one "hears" the Truth and experiences one's Self

as That Truth, all distinctions between these religions dissolve, and

one realizes that it is the One Self that has brought forth all these

in order to draw the minds inward. Then the True meaning of the

Words of the seemingly different Religions, yoga systems, languages

and cultures is discovered to be expressing the same one Truth.

>

> ----

> Jason James Morgan

> 08/02/05 06:38:08

> MillionPaths

> [MillionPaths] Re: Sri. Ramana's interpertation

>

> Hello,

>

> Something that camed to mind when I read this.

> Detachment = kevala

> Non-attatchment = sahaja

>

> JJM

> ----

>

> Xan

> 08/02/05 06:48:23

> MillionPaths

> [MillionPaths] Re: Sri. Ramana's interpertation

>

>

> Hari Om,

>

> Would anyone explain the difference between Detachment and Non-

attachment.??

>

> There appears to be a subtle difference between the two.

>

> If something seperates, we say it is detached.

>

> But a drop of water on a Lotus leaf, we say it is Non-Attached.

>

> ```````

> ~ The drop of water on the leaf was never part of the leaf... never

attached.

>

> As we have identified/merged with our conditioning, in order to

become free we become separate from it by seeing the ego-mind with

objectivity, from a little distance.

>

> ```````

>

> With, Jai Guru Dev,

>

> Jason

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