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Dear Pinkie,

Arthur Osborne is very good. I also can recommend "Be as you are" by David

Godman and later reading the "Talks with Ramana Maharshi".

If you want to know more about Sri Ramana's life you may read Suri Nagammas

"Letters" and Devaraja Mudaliar's "Day by Day with Bhagavan". Also very good

is David Godman: "Living by the words of Bhagavan" and by the same author:

"Power of the Presence, part one and two".

If you have any questions where to order this books, you can ask us here.

 

What kind of approach you need and what will help you to follow the path of

Self Enquiry, you must find out by yourself. There is not only one way

which suits all. Some seekers integrate the methods of different Great

masters, some are concentrated only on one.

If you find your Master - better: if the Master finds you, you can simply

surrender to him and his teaching and follow the path shown by him. The more

you understand his teaching the more you will also understand the teachings

of other great Masters.

 

Try what is easier for you: just watching thoughts or cut them as soon as

they arise. It doesn't matter how the mind is quietend: through awareness or

concentration or ... Whatever helps to quieten and lead it back to its

source you may use. If you are a devotee of Sri Ramana, you perhaps will

find being aware of his powerful presence will also quieten the mind.

 

Wish you all the best to find your personal approach to Self Enquiry. If any

questions please ask.

In Sri Ramana

Gabriele

 

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"gabriele_ebert" <g.ebert

<g.ebert

Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:02 AM

Fwd: A question

 

 

> RamanaMaharshi, "pinkie_brown2001" <pinkie_brown2001>

wrote:

> Dear Friends

> I am extremely new to this path of Self Enquiry. My only introduction

> is Biography of Sri Ramana by Osborne and a 2 Krishnamurti books .

> Please forgive me for asking these questions here but i wanted some

> guidance regarding a issue .

> Sri Ramana has said to cut a thought as soon as it arises ,

> Krishnamurti talks of just observing . Both are eventually talking of

> a quiet Mind. Is their approach different from another . Can a seeker

> on this path integrate the methods of Great masters as Sri ramana ,

> Krishnaji, Nisargadatta maharaj etc .. or is a single approach

> necessary , that is meditation practised as per dictum of one master

> only ?

> The Krishnamurti method seems very similar to awareness method of

> buddhists , while Guru ramana method seems to require concentration

> rather than awareness. I would be very grateful if some one can

> advice me regarding ths issue . If discussion cannot take place

> here , then please email me at pinkie_brown2001

>

> Also I wanted advice as to which books should beginner start with ,

> to understand the Ramana method more clearly

>

> Thank you

> OM TAT SAT

>

> pinkie

> --- End forwarded message ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pinkie,

 

Not much to add to Gabriele's excellent advice. Just to let you know that the

chapters focused on self enquiry from Be As You Are were recently uploaded to

the files section here on . Vicki obtained permissions to post them. The

link is:

 

RamanaMaharshiBe%20As%20You%20Are%20/

 

Oh, and welcome!

Gloria

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

"I want to know that after being experienced in meditation and in the path of

self-enquiry, how long should one meditate every day? I'm trying to figure

this out because I want to meditate more, and so I have, but my schedule is

busy and there is not often as much time as I would like there to be for this."

----- Hi Leaf: I 'm sure that lots of folks here will disagree with this. For

me, in order to develop the necessary mindfulness and one pointed concentration,

so that the obstacles to tranformation may happen, I need 12 to 14 hours a day

sittting meditation for 10 years. That has been my desire for the last 25 years,

but first I have to complete my family cycles. That is how I learned to play the

piano and that is how I will attain a quiet mind. UG says and I agree that the

mind has gotten too stong over time. It's a question of the balance of

discursive neurons versus mindfulness neurons and we are loosing the battle.

This present generation wont have any chance of attaining a silent mind with all

the media bombarding them. I believe though, that a cyber Buddha will appear

with the technology to conquer the "talking to itself mind". A computerized

reading of every thought as it arises will appear on a screen that the

practicioner watches, so that the mind will choke.

Now here goes those attacks coming. I can feel it.

Aloha,

Alton

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

 

Merry Meet,

 

I have a question. First of all, i have not posted to this list much at all,

if even I have ever posted, but I need help with something and I feel that

this group is the correct one to ask. Here is my question:

 

I want to know that after being experienced in meditation and in the path of

self-enquiry, how long should one meditate every day? I'm trying to figure

this out because I want to meditate mroe, and so I have, but my schedule is

busy and there is not often as much time as I would like there to be for this.

 

Namo Ramana

 

bless'd be

 

Leaf

 

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See the light of the Goddess guide you on your path.

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know them as all that exists.

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[Guest guest]

Dear Leaf,

How long you should meditate every day you must find out for yourself. I don't

think it is very useful to force oneself to a certain amount of hours for

meditation. At the same time discipline is helpful and to have fixed times for

meditation.

In my case it is mostly not more than half an hour or 1 hour a day. During the

other hours I also try to stay in contact with Ramana and self-enquiry. The

meditation-hour helps to do this.

 

The inner Guru will help you to find out what suits you. If you give you to him,

if you give you to self-enquiry the way shows itself to you. You need not ask:

"how long" etc. It becomes apparent by itself. And one day - by the grace of the

Guru - the time will come when self-enquiry takes over fully - if you are bussy

or not, whatever you are doing. I wish this for you and for all of us.

 

In HIM

Gabriele

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

 

Merry Meet,

 

I have a question. First of all, i have not posted to this list much at all,

if even I have ever posted, but I need help with something and I feel that

this group is the correct one to ask. Here is my question:

 

I want to know that after being experienced in meditation and in the path of

self-enquiry, how long should one meditate every day? I'm trying to figure

this out because I want to meditate mroe, and so I have, but my schedule is

busy and there is not often as much time as I would like there to be for this.

 

Namo Ramana

 

bless'd be

 

Leaf

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

At 1/24/2002-04:08 PM RamanaMaharshi wrote:

> I have a question. First of all, i have not posted to this list much at

> all,

> if even I have ever posted, but I need help with something and I feel that

> this group is the correct one to ask. Here is my question:

>

> I want to know that after being experienced in meditation and in the

> path of

> self-enquiry, how long should one meditate every day? I'm trying to

> figure

> this out because I want to meditate mroe, and so I have, but my

> schedule is

> busy and there is not often as much time as I would like there to be

> for this.

>

> Namo Ramana

>

> bless'd be

>

> Leaf

 

Hello Leaf,

 

Upto now I haven't done any real meditation or any self-inquiry in my life

time. I just read more and more about Advaita, Buddhism, Sufism, etc. This

surprisingly takes me more and more into the silence [no-mind?] that Ramana

has mentioned many times. [i call this jokingly 'reading meditation'.]

 

However I have just bought a book by Jack Kornfield, called "Living Dharma

- Teachings of Twelve Buddhist Masters" This book has many ways to meditate

with proper explanations as to why which technic will work for you. There

are even methods which are more suitable for Advaitans. I would advise you

to buy this book.

 

I also highly recommend Jack Kornfields "The Eightfold Path for the

Householder: Ten talks by Jack Kornfield, transcribed from audio tape.]

Because it has been transcribed from talks this book is very easy to read.

This is available FREE in a html+word document [easy to search and easy to

print] here:

 

SufiMystic/files

 

Love You

Jan

 

 

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dear friends, this may be ridiculous and insignificant, but i would like to clarify something.

 

this symbol or :-) signifies a smile. ok. but what about this or

;-) ? in my intent and understanding, it symbolizes a smiling wink;

but seems that very often this is meant as just a smile... so, the

question: does = ?

 

thank you

 

yosy )

[Guest guest]

It will not harm him, he can trust in that.

Tell him to relax, he'll find out soon enough.

Projecting about the future is just the mind's

way to avoid resting in what's always present.

Ironically, that which will be on the day he

dies is no different than what is now.

 

 

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