Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 > this description, though not perfect, is much better: Yes. from NDS Pitfall in the Self ===================================== The most exalted tapas, according to [Ramana] Maharshi, is the destruction of ahankara - the ego, the I-notion - leading to the knowledge of the Self. Ahankara is an imposter--posing as the self- and so, upon enquiry, resolves into the Self which is its true basis. ===================================== In my view, the idea of a capital S Self is a tricky business because it can become a storehouse of ego projection and attachment. Ego loves to appropriate the idea of a superself and move in. Any notion of an absolute self or absolute ground of being easily turns into attachment and an object of craving and illusion, and a person ends up in a dilemma in the very effort to get out of one. So what I'm saying is that it's probably best not to preconceive an enlightened state or State (!) and give it substance, but to work away dilligently at the causes of spiritual ignorance - till the enlightened view dawns of itself. Otherwise it's concepts and words only - and plenty of suffering. Any comments appreciated > > The spiritual ego - Maitreya Ishwara > > > The spiritual ego is subtle, cunning, > superior, inferior and secretive. > > The spiritual ego develops because ego > has to live somewhere until it dissolves. > > If you are a seeker of truth, the ego > identifies with your quest and can become > serious and secretly superior. > > The inner reality of seekers is never quite > as beautiful as the ideals of their tradition > and they decorate their ego so that it looks > a little nicer. > > This is a common trap for many seekers and > one from which it is difficult to escape. > Authenticity and playfulness are the antidote. > > For this you will need support from those > who are already living in this way. When > the ideal is authenticity, not purity, you > are free to be yourself. > > Authenticity and playfulness give you the > space to face yourself as you are and to > confront your darkness consciously. > This conscious self-encounter brings purity > indirectly, without the hypocritical burden > of a spiritually pure ego. > > ~ Maitreya Ishwara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Yes I hear your words and it's true what you are speaking of but re- read your words carefully you mention states well states are states they all come and go. For one that is awaken this dear one is not a state and is certainly not some that needs or can be worked with. It is what it is and always has been, it is the Awareness and is not a state of awareness. Yes all words are concepts, however in the silence that you truly are you will not find concepts or words.. Blessings in the now always Randy > Pitfall in the Self > ===================================== > The most exalted tapas, according to [Ramana] Maharshi, is > the destruction of ahankara - the ego, the I-notion - leading to > the knowledge of the Self. Ahankara is an imposter--posing as > the self- and so, upon enquiry, resolves into the Self which is > its true basis. > ===================================== > In my view, the idea of a capital S Self is a tricky business because > it can become a storehouse of ego projection and attachment. Ego > loves to appropriate the idea of a superself and move in. Any notion > of an absolute self or absolute ground of being easily turns into > attachment and an object of craving and illusion, and a person ends > up in a dilemma in the very effort to get out of one. So what I'm > saying is that it's probably best not to preconceive an enlightened > state or State (!) and give it substance, but to work away > dilligently at the causes of spiritual ignorance - till the > enlightened view dawns of itself. Otherwise it's concepts and words > only - and plenty of suffering. > > Any comments appreciated > > > > > > > > The spiritual ego - Maitreya Ishwara > > > > > > The spiritual ego is subtle, cunning, > > superior, inferior and secretive. > > > > The spiritual ego develops because ego > > has to live somewhere until it dissolves. > > > > If you are a seeker of truth, the ego > > identifies with your quest and can become > > serious and secretly superior. > > > > The inner reality of seekers is never quite > > as beautiful as the ideals of their tradition > > and they decorate their ego so that it looks > > a little nicer. > > > > This is a common trap for many seekers and > > one from which it is difficult to escape. > > Authenticity and playfulness are the antidote. > > > > For this you will need support from those > > who are already living in this way. When > > the ideal is authenticity, not purity, you > > are free to be yourself. > > > > Authenticity and playfulness give you the > > space to face yourself as you are and to > > confront your darkness consciously. > > This conscious self-encounter brings purity > > indirectly, without the hypocritical burden > > of a spiritually pure ego. > > > > ~ Maitreya Ishwara > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 , "panamavolcan" <panamavolcan> wrote: > > Yes I hear your words and it's true what you are speaking of but re- > read your words carefully you mention states well states are states > they all come and go. For one that is awaken this dear one is not a > state and is certainly not some that needs or can be worked with. > It is what it is and always has been, it is the Awareness and is not > a state of awareness. right. Yes all words are concepts, however in the > silence that you truly are you will not find concepts or words.. > Blessings in the now always > Randy words and concepts can be used as a thorn is used to remove a thorn, after which both are discarded. what is (awareness) remains as it always is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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