Sri Ramana and Aurobindo

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Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought that

these were things well known and stated by many ancient works but had

been put in a new packaging using new terms by Aurbindo. He read some of

Aurbindo's works in one night when a devotee brought him a book.

Sometimes people from Aurbindo's Ashram would come to Ramana Ashram and

vice versa as well. The difference between Sri Ramana and Aurbindo is

very simple and fundamental. Sri Ramana taught stillness and to abide in

the Self, the Heart that is the source of all activities. Aurbindo is

all about activity and, in fact, focuses on mental and supramental

activity. Ascent and descent of divine forces, etc.

 

The Heart Sri Ramana spoke about is not the heart-center of kundalini

yoga but the two are often mixed up. These two are not the same and Sri

Ramana pointed that out many times. The Heart that Sri Ramana refers to

is beyond time and space and all activities and is the Self Aware

Presence abiding as It Self. From the perspective of the mind, the

Heart, the Self has a location. The ancients called it the cave of the

Heart. Upon entering it, everything disappears including the location

and Self is known in its fullness in its own nature by it Self as the

Eternal Self Knowing, Self Bliss, Self Existence, that has always been.

So the question of ascent and descent of forces is moot in Self-Realization.

 

In Bhagavan

Harsha

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Harsha,

This is quite correct, if one has entered the Cave of the Heart. However until

that occurs

there may well be much movement of "forces ascending and descending" and the

initiate

who is experiencing them may well need guidance and grounding.

 

If such experiences occur spontaneously there may be much concern about what is

occurring because the person doesn't understand what is happening. In the

NonDual

perspective the response to such phenomena is to observe, and ask "To whom is

this

occurring? Who am I?" Yes?

 

JL

 

, Harsha wrote:

>

> Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought that

> these were things well known and stated by many ancient works but had

> been put in a new packaging using new terms by Aurbindo. He read some of

> Aurbindo's works in one night when a devotee brought him a book.

> Sometimes people from Aurbindo's Ashram would come to Ramana Ashram and

> vice versa as well. The difference between Sri Ramana and Aurbindo is

> very simple and fundamental. Sri Ramana taught stillness and to abide in

> the Self, the Heart that is the source of all activities. Aurbindo is

> all about activity and, in fact, focuses on mental and supramental

> activity. Ascent and descent of divine forces, etc.

>

> The Heart Sri Ramana spoke about is not the heart-center of kundalini

> yoga but the two are often mixed up. These two are not the same and Sri

> Ramana pointed that out many times. The Heart that Sri Ramana refers to

> is beyond time and space and all activities and is the Self Aware

> Presence abiding as It Self. From the perspective of the mind, the

> Heart, the Self has a location. The ancients called it the cave of the

> Heart. Upon entering it, everything disappears including the location

> and Self is known in its fullness in its own nature by it Self as the

> Eternal Self Knowing, Self Bliss, Self Existence, that has always been.

> So the question of ascent and descent of forces is moot in Self-Realization.

>

> In Bhagavan

> Harsha

>

[Guest guest]

, Harsha wrote:

>

> Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought

that

> these were things well known and stated by many ancient works but

had

> been put in a new packaging using new terms by Aurbindo. He read

some of

> Aurbindo's works in one night when a devotee brought him a book.

> Sometimes people from Aurbindo's Ashram would come to Ramana

Ashram and

> vice versa as well. The difference between Sri Ramana and Aurbindo

is

> very simple and fundamental. Sri Ramana taught stillness and to

abide in

> the Self, the Heart that is the source of all activities. Aurbindo

is

> all about activity and, in fact, focuses on mental and supramental

> activity. Ascent and descent of divine forces, etc.

>

 

Namaste,Harsha et al,

 

Yes I have some work of Sri Aurobindo. He was an interesting person,

a worker for Swaraj in India initially, and then seemingly taught a

philosophy seemingly similar to Nietche and the 'Superman'.

 

So it seem Aurobindo was all about transformation of matter as

opposed to its denial. No doubt this type of Yoga would be of

interest to those who are not interested in religion, advaita or

ajatavada. It does stimulate the intellect, but Harsha you are right

about Ramana and the simplicity of 'Who am I?'.........ONS..Tony