Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Namaste, This from the Advaitins. I find it summarises the system of giving some validity to creation as a teaching tool and then ending up with the Truth or Nirguna Brahman. A very interesting post...ONS..Tony. advaitajnana, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: praNAms Hare Krishna The concept of creation and brahman as its efficient & material (upAdAna & nimitta) cause etc. have been discussed at length at various places by shankara. While refuting sAnkhya, vaiShEshika-s pradhAna-paramANu theories shankara vehemently argues that there cannot be any insentient cause to this universe...as this creation is systamatically arranged in an order...so this can be possible only to a sentient being that is Ishwara who is omniscient & omnipotent. In the second sUtra *janmAdasya yatha* this is the main topic which has been discussed in pages...shankara writes elaborated commentary to prove his point that Ishvara can only be the cause of this creation not any insentient thing like pradhAna of sAnkhya or paramAnu of vaishEshika. But, point to be noted here is, the context in which our AchArya saying this. Without knowing this it would be very difficult to arrive at a conclusion that which should not affect a bit to ultimate nirguNa, nirvikAra nature of brahman. For this the term creation (srushti) demand clarification strictly from the vEdAntic view point. First we should see what shruti gives us with regard to creation. In prashnOpanishad it's been said that first he created life from life faith then ether, air, light, water earth etc. ( sa praNamasrujata praNaM shraddhAM kham vAyu, jyOti, ApaH..) Secondly, ItarEya says this was indeed Atman alone in the beginning and nothing else...sentient or non- sentient. He thought..Let me create the worlds..he created these worlds..ambhas, marEchies, mara and ApaH..(AtmA vA idamEka yEvatra Asit....sa imAnlOkansrujata ...ambE marichimArmApaH etc.). Thirdly, muNdaka says just as the spider exudes and withdraws the web just as plants are botn out of the earth etc. so comes out all this universe from the imperishable one...Finally, chAndOgya says, Atman was one without the second & it thought let me become pletenous..let me be born as manifold ...then it created light!! Likewise, taitirIya too gives some different account with creation. If you see the above, it is clear that shruti is not so particular about giving the correct account of creation....if the creation is real, Ishwara is really its creator...how can our shruti mAta gives incorrect information about it?? Prashna says that the purusha created prAna etc. but it is not clear out of which substance he created them...and ItarEya says differently that all this universe was Atman before creation!! mundaka says Atman himself became all this in the process of creation...and it seems all the created things appeared at a stretch like hair out of a person!! and chAndOgya saying Atman itself modified and transformed into the universe...though we know that this sort of self transformation is repugnat to the shruti-s & its siddhAnta of nirvikAri Atman ...It is also to be noted that with regard to jIva also shruti gives different description at different places...we shall take that in a separate mail. Now, it is clear that shruti is not giving us the *correct* order & process of this creation to attribute the same to Ishwara...then what would be the intention of shruti in advocating creation, jIva etc. etc. ?? Since both jIva & jagat are easily accessible to us, shruti adopting a method to teach us the *reality* which is beyond this nAma rUpAtmaka jIva- jagat. All these things comes only under the device for the purpose of teaching the absolute non dual reality...using the traditional method of superimpostion (adhyArOpa) and rescission (apavAda)..that is the reason why shruti has never taken seriously that in explaining creation order/process and brahman is really the cause of it. It would not be out of context if I repeat here the paramArtha in advaita as said by Sri gaudapAdAchArya's in his kArika : " there is neither creation nor dissolution no one bound nor one who undergoes spiritual discipline no one who intensely desires to be released nor one who is released...this is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH..." If we understand the above declaration properly, it is not difficult for us to discern that the method of creation is presented in all the shruti texts as a variety of the adhyArOpa and apavAda method. All apparent differences in srushti, jIva svarUpa, brahma svarUpa can easily be reconciled once we know how this method works in all through the prasthAna trayi. For example in gIta first lord says sarvataH pAni pAdam ...and in the very next moment he says it is sarvEdriya vivarjita!! why?? if this brahman has really multiple limbs then lord would have stopped then & there ....there was no need for him to clarify that *the tattva* is sarvEndriya vivarjita & sarva guNAtIta....shankara calls first verse as adhyArOpa and second one as apavAda...not vice versa to prove that these names and forms themselves brahman....elsewhere krishna says in gIta, all these beings rest in me but I do not rest in them... this is adhyArOpa coz. somewhere else krishna clarifies that nor are the beings really in me ...just look at the yOga belonging to be ...this is apavAda. Still plenty of evidences can be found in the shruti & smruti texts to justify how this method of adhArOpa apavAda effecively works & leads us to ultimate reality of nirguNa, nirvishEsha brahman...but this mail has already become lengthy... I'd like to conclude this mail by quoting another gem from kArika (3-15): " The creation which is taught in various ways by means of illustrations like that of clay, metal and sparks is only a *device* (upAya) for the purpose of leading the mind to the truth....there is no diversity on any account..." Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.