The Dalai Lama talks Turkey

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> > That may all be true an noble.. but the assertion that a person

> who eats meat cannot be enlightened does not follow.

> >

> > Sam

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IMHO Tony has a negative spin on many things.

 

shanti, peace, Era

 

 

> Namaste,

>

> Sure it does, it shows a violation of Ahimsa and no Daya or

> compassion for the animals etc.

>

> The only person who can eat meat, in that context, is one who is

> already Realised and just eats whatever is put in his bowl, with no

> desire/attachment or a lack of awareness of the fact the animal was

> tortured and killed.

>

> I'm not saying all who eat meat aren't on the path, I'm just saying

> they haven't developed Daya as yet, which is a requirement for

> Moksha...Tony.

>

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Sam

Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:19 PM

Re: Re: The Dalai Lama talks Turkey

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Tony OClery

Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:56 PM

Re: The Dalai Lama talks Turkey

, "Era" <n0ndual@w...> wrote:>> >

> ...no one gets to come to the Thanksgiving table looking

condescendingly at anyone else. Namaste,To me the DaLai Lama is a

great political and religious leader, the fact he eats meat precludes

me from supposing he is an enlightened being...Tony.

Totally silly

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lol read this by mistake... what, someone still

wastes time reading its posts?

speaking about the dalai lama, here is a true

story which ilustrates why i love the guy and

consider him a true teacher. i posted it some

years ago.

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Last year one of friends of mine spent some months traveling in

india. At a certain point he traveled with some other fellow

travelers on motorbikes in the north. They drove up to dharmasala, to

pay respects to the dalai lama. There are two roads up to the tibetan

settlement; both are very steep and difficult.My friend, ilan,

chooses one of the roads and, with difficulty, reached the top. He

waited for the other four guys, but they did not show up; so he

walked down hill and found out that the four bikes had burnt their

clutches on the attempts to climb the steep road.Since the garages

are located on top of the hill, in the tibetan village, they had no

choice but to push them all the way up the road. The five of them

started the task. They were assisted occasionally by kind passersby.

At a certain point, two elderly tibetan monks walking the same

direction engaged them in conversation, and after sharing some laughs

helped to push the bikes quite a distance, despite their age. The

next day there were invited to a lecture delivered by the dalai lama

to young tibetans. There was a podium on a side of the hall, sort of

balcony, reserved for the western guests.The lecture was in tibetan;

it started with a sentence that the dalai lama said which throw the

audience into fits of laughter that lasted fifteen minutes. Than hh

continued to deliver his speech, interrupted frequently by outbursts

of laughter from the audience.After the lecture ended, the

'foreigners' noticed to their joy, that the dalai lama, instead of

leaving the premises, turned to their direction and climbed up to

their balcony. He spoke with some of them, about their countries and

travels in india, and his immediate presence was a powerful

experience. as he was about to leave, he turned towards ilan and

asked "well, how did you manage with the bikes, did you get the spare

parts?" it was only then that ilan recognized him. he was one of the

two elderly monks that pushed with them the bikes uphill the day

before.@}->,->'--yosy