Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Vanakkam! Bhagawan has said that Realization is possible only through the Grace of a GURU. HE was as definite about this as other Masters... Although the Enlightened One is One with the Absolute, HIS traits of character continues to exist outwardly as the vehicle of his manifestation, so that one Gnani can have quite different human characteristics from another... --- yosyx <yosyflug wrote: > , Ramana Sarma > Poduri > <rpodury@g...> wrote: > > > > One has to clearly understand that the > investigation > > refers to one specific action and not a whole > incident > > over a period of time. Some how or the other, this > is > > not clearly understood, and when a visitor reviews > his > > process of investigaton with me, it becomes amply > > clear that the investigation process has not been > > properly understood or practiced. The > investigation > > certainly has to be done by the ego itself from > his > > own experience-no one can effectively do it for > you. > > The only point is that it is the working mind > working > > in the present moment that must do the > investigation, > > and not the thinking mind always functioning in > the > > past or the present, trying to prove something for > the > > apparent benefit of the ego > > > > Once the flash of total acceptance happens that > there > > cannot be any individual doer-oneself or the > other-but > > that every single apparent action is not done by > any > > individual doer but that it is a happening > produced by > > the Primal energy, functioning through the > body-mind > > instrument, precisely as electricity produces > through > > each electrical gadget precisely that which the > > particular gadget has been designed to produce, > there > > is a corresponding result. There is the personal > > experience of the Buddha's statement, "events > happen, > > deeds are done, but there is no individual doer > > thereof", which, in turn, produces an intense, > deep > > feeling of total freedom from personal pride or > > arrogance, guilt and shame for what was earlier > > considered to be one's own actions, and also total > > freedom from any hatred or ill will or malice > towards > > any one. The deep understanding, is clearly, > that if > > I am not supposed to get hurt according to my > destiny > > or God's will, no power on earth can hurt me; on > the > > other hand , if it is my destiny to be hurt, > through > > which individual body-mind instrument the relevant > > action happens is for me tonally irrelevant. > > > > The ultimate understanding works very simply in > daily > > living; daily living becomes the going with the > flow, > > witnessing impersonally whatever happens not as > > anyone's doing but a series of happenings > according to > > a cosmic Law-total freedom personal doer ship, > total > > freedom from pride and arrogance, from gilt and > shame, > > total freedom from hatred and malice towards any > one. > > That is living one's life as a sage. > > > > One point needs to be very clearly understood. The > > Ultimate Understanding of non-doer ship-Self > > Realization-does not mean the total annihilation > of > > the ego. This cannot happen for the simple reason > that > > the ego is necessary for the sage to live the rest > of > > his allotted span of life. The sage responds to > his > > name being called and functions as an individual > > entity in his allotted role in life. But the ego > of > > the sage is without any sting because the sense of > > personal doership has been annihilated. In the > words > > of Ramana Maharshi, the ego of the sage is like > the > > "remnants of burnt rope" –absolutely helpless and > > harmless. ( introduction concluded) > > > > Ramana Sarma > > > > > > The deep understanding, is clearly, that if > > I am not supposed to get hurt according to my > destiny > > or God's will, no power on earth can hurt me; on > the > > other hand , if it is my destiny to be hurt, > through > > which individual body-mind instrument the relevant > > action happens is for me tonally irrelevant. > > > > > > ) really? what "I" exactly are you talking about? > > and whose destiny? > > yosy > > > > REALIZATION is SEEING and NOT KNOWING ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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