Satsang with Nome - Nonobjective Realization - Q & A 2

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Another Q.: Again, it seems today that if one inquires into the one

who is bound, one discovers the ever-free Reality, the Self. If I

would just do that, the experience would be that there is no one

bound. In an earlier satsang you asked someone, "Who inquires?" You

said that it cannot be the Self, and it cannot be the ego that

inquires, because the ego does not exist and is only a concept, and

it cannot be the Self that inquires because the Self is solitary,

undifferentiated Being that just is at it is. So, the question is who

does inquire?

 

N.: When you so inquire, what happens?

 

Q.: Nothing happens, but one realizes that which is transcendent of a

nonexistent ego. It must be That which is and cannot be known but is

what one is.

 

N.: Every spiritual practice, inclusive of inquiry, is, in one sense,

based upon illusion. The purpose of them is the destruction of the

illusion. Even inquiry can be said to be so. What is unique about the

inquiry to know yourself is that it does not include the dualism of

the illusion that you are trying to destroy.

 

Q.: Yes, it is the direct way to avoid that dualism.

 

N.: When the illusion is gone, there is no separate inquirer and

there is no separate activity of inquiry going on.

 

Q.: It seems to me that the same applies to the questioner or the one

that efforts (sic) It is said here that effort is required to the

extent that there is ignorance. When one inquires into the one who is

making the effort, the result experientially is that there is no one

who efforts (sic) and that the effortless state is already present.

 

N.: So, in practice, we do not attempt to eliminate effort. We look

at who we are, and effort is taken care of by itself. If we simply

attempted to eliminate effort, the ego would remain solidly intact,

even though it's an illusion. Its effects would still be present.

 

Q.: So, as long as the ego seems to be…

 

N.: So, if only we put in the effort to which you alluded when you

first started to speak, if only one's effort is fully put into

realizing who we are, That which is natural, innate – sahaja, which

is sometimes very loosely translated as "effortless" because it is

natural—is realized.

 

Q.: It seems very simple.

 

N.: The Innate is very simple.

 

Q.: The instruction seems very simple. Just do it.

 

N.: It is as simple as the nature of the one who receives it. If you

find this nature to be supremely simple, not allowing even so much as

a thought to crowd in, then it is received. It is very simple.

 

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Not two,

Richard