Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 brilliant! thanks, bob. - Bob OHearn Monday, January 09, 2006 2:36 AM Analysis of Dependent Co-arising Analysis of Dependent Co-arising~ Sakyamuni BuddhaHome everywhere, happy anywhere (in this case, Savathi), Sakyamuni Buddha caught his friends' attention when he kindly chimed out,"Let's look at dependent co-arising! What is it? Well, originally there is nothing known or knowing – our actual nature! From knowing nothing, we begin creating stories. These stories eventually coalesce into a sense of self-consciousness, which generates more stories about identity to confirm itself, requiring perception, memory, and imagination to merge with the life force and enliven the cognition of individuated physicality via the various sensory faculties. "I am" is born. Now, "I am" is feeling, and what "I am" is feeling is desire. This desire means to hold on until it is satisfied – no, it can't slow down, it cannot rest. This is also called "becoming". It is the creative impulse which takes breath, an appearance in time, and thus also subject to impermanence. For all of that which resists and conflicts with change, that strives to hold on to the slightest wisp of a story: suffering, and in any case, death. And that's the whole damn thing in a nutshell!So what is this original not knowing? It is not knowing the story – any story. It is not knowing the beginning, middle, or end of any story. It is not knowing any method or practice which may lead to the end of any story, since there is no story to be known. That's not knowing . . . and, from the remaindlerless fading and cessation of that very not knowing, comes the end of the stories. >From the end of all story comes the realization of the insubstantiality of any narrator – the end of self-conscious identification -- nothing to name, nothing to crave, nothing to cling to, nothing created or destroyed, nothing happening, not one damn thing!" ~Paticca-samuppada-vibhanga SuttaTranslated from the Pali byThanissaro BhikkhuTransliteration by bobLoveAlways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 -----Original Message----- [] On Behalf Of Bob OHearn Sunday, January 08, 2006 5:37 PM [ - Ramana Guru] Analysis of Dependent Co-arising Analysis of Dependent Co-arising ~ Sakyamuni Buddha Home everywhere, happy anywhere (in this case, Savathi), Sakyamuni Buddha caught his friends' attention when he kindly chimed out, "Let's look at dependent co-arising! What is it? Well, originally there is nothing known or knowing – our actual nature! From knowing nothing, we begin creating stories. SNIP Question??? If originally there is “…nothing known or knowing - our actual nature…”, and if that state is such a great and desirable condition, then why do we begin creating stories, any story, especially this story? Why would that happen if the “actual nature” is “…nothing known or knowing”? In other words, what’s so great about “nothing”? Love to all, michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 , "Michael Bowes" <aumshanti@c...> wrote: >If originally there is "…nothing known or knowing - our actual nature…", and if that state is such a great and desirable condition, then why do we begin creating stories, any story, especially this story? ))) Consciousness has the urge towards full self-awareness. Hence, the "big bang". >Why would that happen if the "actual nature" is "…nothing known or knowing"? ))) It is it's pure delight! >In other words, what's so great about "nothing"? ))) Nothing. This is why Bodhidharma says, "Vast emptiness, and nothing holy in it." LoveAlways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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