RE: Nothing but nature

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On Behalf Of Jeroen

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:10

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- Ramana Guru] Nothing but nature

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I think this

enlightenment and spirituality-business is dangerous and

destructive.

It leads us away from and destroys what is of vital

importance

to ourselves, that is, nature.

What I mean

is that anything we experience, is an experience of nature

(or the

cosmos). In short, all there is, is nature. Nature is not some

external

thing. As you are never separate from nature, nature and you

are one: it

is impossible to say where a human 'ends' and

nature/cosmos

'begins'. To ignore/destroy nature is to ignore/destroy

humans, to

straightjacket nature is to straightjacket yourself, and

vice versa.

Nature is one.

Nature is a

(comm)unity and everything that occurs in nature (f.e. a

human being)

is a form of that (comm)unity.

So it's not

Shiva, Shakti, (para)Brahma(n), God, Allah, Buddha-nature

or whatever

other spiritual, mystical, or transcendental concept/path

that was, is

or will be making your day: it all is, has been and will

be nature.

Hence there is no high and mighty plain of Detachment,

Happiness

and Bliss where the Enlightened dwell: every one of us is

here,

in/with nature, as nature. And I assure you, we all suffer

tremendously

from the wars that are being waged on nature.

So instead

of searching for ((y)our) Happiness and ((y)our)

Enlightenment,

we/you should better start minding and fighting for

what we are

and what we were from the very beginning, viz. nature and

her

(comm)unity.

Notice that,

I, that is, nature, am being destroyed while you are

searching

for Enlightenment. In other words, the search for a Higher

State of Being (Enlightenment,

Liberation, Extinction) is one of the

terrors of

the contemporary world. We do not need Enlightenment, we

need nature,

and we need it now!

Hi Jeroen,

The desire for

transcendence is a part of nature. It is a practical impulse of

transformation.

I agree with

you, we are nature, we must respect nature. But transcendental practices,

that are a part of nature, can lead one to the very source of nature, the “root”

of Life itSelf.

You are

obviously deeply disturbed by the harmful behaviors of people. I’m

sorry that you have been hurt that way.

But how do you propose

to change the destructive, manipulative, and exploitive behavior of human beings

that you find so offensive?

And why shouldn’t

people seek the very peace that is required to live the kind of life that you

espouse?

Warmest

regards,

michael

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