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I am hesitating a little using the word enlightenment, but from the way I

see it has been used in this thread:

 

>From observation I believe we think of both the unchanging and the changing

as person.

 

 

If with enlightenment the changing is no longer identified as a part of

the person (= ourself )., the logic would bring us to:

 

 

 

If there no sense of loss with this identification going nothing has

changed. So in this context enlightenment is personal like an unbroken

thread. And even when knowing nothing but the surface of a well, how many

will say the personal is gone when knowing the source, Perhaps quite the

opposite

 

 

I have seen described many times, the sense of loss may come from an 'after'

situation.

 

Returning to the daily duties, with a 'lost' ego, personality slowly falling

into place creating the experience of : There was no person.

 

 

If this development is not part of the question raised, then

 

 

If there also is a before or immediate situation as mentioned above ( like a

broken thread) we might say that for the individual, as there clearly is two

different experiences, enlightenment is personal also in the sense of

personal possibilities .

 

 

But returning to the question, if it is a final enlightenment and that is

not an experience, can it be either?

 

 

Still did not Ramana have observations of before and after?

 

 

Where does that leave us ?

 

Personally I would say with personal and neither : )

 

 

Alan

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On Behalf Of Alan

Friday, April 21, 2006 5:55 AM

Re: Is Enlightenment Personal? 3

questions

 

 

 

 

I am hesitating a little using the word enlightenment, but from the way I

see it has been used in this thread:

 

>From observation I believe we think of both the unchanging and the changing

as person.

 

 

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But returning to the question, if it is a final enlightenment and that is

not an experience, can it be either?

 

 

Still did not Ramana have observations of before and after?

 

 

Where does that leave us ?

 

Personally I would say with personal and neither : )

 

 

Alan

 

 

 

The unchanging and the unchanging, the permanent and the impermanent - OM

TAT SAT

 

 

Love and peace,

 

 

michael

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