Message by dakinic_monk

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Dear devi bhakta,

 

I could never say the devi mahatmayan is worthless I was talking

about the translations. There are very few that state mahisha as ego

since many tend to take it literally. I was was talking about it being

mis translated and misinterpreted. As for many shatras i think they

are ok just that people interpret and translate wrongly. But there are

some that are written by "drunks" u should know that. Esther was the

Mahishasuramardini she used to win all the beauty padgents of old in

that Kingdom. Later she married the bafflow king to save her race and

so in doing so she destroyed his ego since the king gave her one boon

and she used that to destroy his ego. she was a spark of the goddess.

And so I have seen only that spark. She materiliased her self infront

of the pire before I could jump in and offer myself as the bali. Thus

she said that I have to wait and gave me a load of knowledge. She then

pointed out her son Lord Kartikeyan being born again and is now

helping many. I came to the lord and currently he has commanded me

to do the rudra sadhana. You see if the devi comes with a full power

she can disintergrate a person turn them to ashes so the Lord rudra

needs to be summoned to act as a sheath. She has never come in hertrue

form not even in the times of old. I had to offer myself before she

would come. I spend countless days infront of the yagnya doing the

japa continually alone. Thus she came and gave me her drashan 5 days

later. Very hard to please her! anyways I would only advise u to read

the sanskrit works of Aadi shankara that is all u must read. The

mantra I used to summon the mother is one from the devi mahatmayam I

had to be inintiated by a master of the Deva mantra from the the Kriya

sect the Highest in Hinduism to whom even the Nambodari priests bow

down to. Thus only by purity of mind,heart and soul can she come. For

every japa you I required a full concentration if I got side tracted I

had to start all over again. Very strict. But she at the end did show

and did correct me.

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reply by devi_bhakta

 

Dear Dakinic_Monk:

 

Thank you for your cordial reply. I am relieved to hear that you have

some faith in Devi Mahatmyam. And I feel as strongly as you about the

value of Adi Shankara's compositions. There is a lot in these

scriptures to have faith in; it does not take long to truly feel their

power.

 

However, the logic of your Book of Esther parallel continues to elude

me. It makes no sense, either historically (the Devi story is older

than the Esther story) or content-wise (they are totally different

tales, with few commonalities). Specifically:

 

1. You state, "Esther was the Mahishasuramardini [i.e. Devi as the

Buffalo-Slayer]; she used to win all the beauty padgents of old in

that Kingdom."

 

The Book *does* mention Esther's beauty and charm; but she seems to

have come from very poor and oppressed circumstances -- not much of

a beauty pageant. She gets into the king's harem because she keeps her

Jewish ethnicity a secret.

 

2. You state, "Later she married the bafflow king to save her race."

 

But nowhere in the Book of Esther is King Ahasuerus identified as a

"Buffalo King," and nowhere is he described as wearing a buffalo hat

or any other buffalo insignia.

 

And Esther did not marry him to "save her race"; she married him

because he told her to, and he was king and she was his subject. Ten

or 12 years into their marriage, when an evil adviser hatched a plot

to exterminate the Jews, she revealed to the king that she was Jewish.

Because he had grown to love and respect her, he stopped the plot and

punished those who'd planned it. Only then did she "save her race" --

by accident rather than design.

 

3. You add, "in doing so she destroyed his ego since the king gave her

one boon and she used that to destroy his ego."

 

But there is no indication in the Book of Esther that the king's ego

is ever affected in the least. Quite the contrary: Throughout the

book, Ahasuerus mercilessly punishes those who cross him (like Queen

Vashti). Esther only gets her way because she never fails to pay

proper deference to her king and husband.

 

And it's not accurate to say that the king "grants her one boon"; as

Ahasuerus's respectful and submissive wife, Esther asks a new favor of

him at the beginning of almost every chapter -- in terms that, if

anything, actually *stroke* his ego: "If it please the king, and if I

have found favour in his sight, and if the thing seem right before the

King, and if I be pleasing in his eyes, let it be written ..." etc.

 

The message of the Book of Esther is *purely* patriarchal -- it

concerns rewarding a wife who "knows her place," and punishing one

who doesn't. The author constantly underscores this with editorial

comments like: "The king's decree (for it is great) [is that] all the

wives shall give to their husbands honour, both to great and small."

 

So exactly *whose* ego is being destroyed here? At the end of the

book, Ahasuerus is still a mighty and ruthless king -- the only change

is, he's become a protector of the Jews thanks to the wise and subtle

influence of his Jewish wife.

 

Dakinic_Monk, I greatly respect the knowledge and passion in your

posts, but in this particular case, I truly think you're really

barking up the wrong tree.

 

Aum Maatangyai Namahe