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Hi Shakti Guys and Gals,

I love shakti for the exact same reason I love my wife. Without

her I feel like destroying, kill, kill, kill. Myself even. Just

knowing she's there makes me calm and then I can do higher things

than just think about having sex with a slut. You see, that's what

we men come down to when we don't have the higher love. I believe

that Siva needs his Shakti or he goes berserk. So the question of

which came first or which is higher is moot. When Shakti isn't there

Siva has to open his eye to look for her and you know what happens

when he opens his eye.

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adi_shakthi16

Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:37 PM

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[Guest guest]

Greetings eve_69.

 

You remarked : "I love shakti for the exact same reason I love my

wife……. Just knowing she's there makes me calm and then I can do

higher things than just think about having sex with a slut"

 

Isnt it kinda of strange for you to say I love shakti and yet later

on you called another Shakti a slut? What ever the person is, I

don't

think so its right to call her as such.

 

When Ramakrishna encountered women brought by well wishers to make

him taste the pleasures of the flesh in order to divert his mind from

what they considered an unnatural obsession with the divine, he saw

in them the embodiment of the same purity which was there in his

Mother. Ramakrishna saw the divine mother in everyone incuding his

wife.

 

I remember reading a book about Shiva and why he is special, and the

only one to be the consort of Devi. Once Devi appears before the

three of them ( Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva ) in one of her most

fierceful form. Brahman just turn his head, and Vishnu close his

eyes. Shiva look at Devi and smile. Another story tells of how the

Devi again appear before the three of them in yet another horrible

form, this time like a decompose corpse. And again Brahma turn his

head, Vishnu hide his face, but Shiva embrace Devi lovingly. What

makes Shiva so special is that he is aware of everything at all times

and he is almost never touched by Maya. He is able to see beyond all

Maya. This is what I am referring to when I said in the message

(Inconversation : the left handed path)of becoming Shiva.

 

I do agree with you that this argument about who is higher : Shakti

or Shiva is pointless. Its like the egg and the chicken debate.

Ultimately they are all the same and equal. Its how you approach the

Divine, how are you connected to Devi and your beliefs about HER

divinity including HER power and strength.

 

OM ParaShaktiye Namaha

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

The problems with the dicotomy of sexual expectations for women are

worth discussing from a spiritual perspective, though this may prove

difficult as these issues are very emotional.

 

For myself, it seems that a system that divides women into

mothers/wives and whores serves only to remove power from all women

and pit them against each other in competition for negligible amounts

of privilege.

 

It is a fact of public health that it is easier for a male to transmit

a sexually transmitted disease than a woman. I can't tell you how many

times I have seen men with wedding rings and baby car seats in their

cars cruising the prostitution district in my U.S. city. I'm sure

their wives don't know that they are now at health risk because of

their husband's behavior.

 

I believe that it is the responsiblility of those who took the vows to

keep them. Those wives were promised nothing by the women who work in

the sex trade. They were promised everything by the men who betray

them. That situation angers me.

 

I am further angered by news reports of women being thrown out of

their homes when it is discovered that they have AIDS, even when it is

their husbands who gave that to them.

 

I was deeply troubled recently when a woman in Africa who sued for

child support ended up stoned to death as punishment for adultery

under "Sharia" laws.

 

I do not see the benefit to women in general when we divide them into

2 categories: good and bad. Even the "good" women suffer from undue

restriction and loss of power. This system seems designed only to

control women, not to appreciate them.

 

I appreciate the opportunity to share my views on this, and hope I

have not offended anyone.

 

Prainbow