Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 namaste adi shakti, no problem for the delay.. thank you very much for your interesting post(s).. do i understand it right if using worldly desires to attain spiritual union is a form of vira sadhana? while in divya sadhana there is no need to attain union/ecstasy, viz. union has become being, being has become union? in other words, for the vira there is still a difference between yoga and bhoga and for the divya yoga and bhoga are the same, everything has become 'absorption'? i checked the previous posts on samaya marga (message 895).. very nice.. did i understand it right that samaya marga is pure internal worship and kaula marga is a mixture of internal and external worship (misra)? is that the reason why you prefer samaya? if you have more information/weblinks/articles on samaya (or kaula) marga, please share them with us.. how is svatantra related to vira-divya sadhana (and samaya marga)? thanks again for your care, one love om shanti , "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > hi spurna, dear one , i apologize for the delay in responding to your > queries... > > first, let us take up the vast subject of 'vira' sadhnaa. > > before discussing that, we need to look into what are called > the 'bhavas' in tantra... bhava means 'emotion' - > > basically, in tantric sadhana, there are three kinds of bhavas... the > spiritual aspirants are divided into three major groups according to > their mental disposition or gunas or emotions.. > > 1) pashu- animal like > > 2) vira- heroic > > 3) divya- divine > > IWho is a person of pashu bhava? > > Such a person is fully absorbed in wordly activities - he is easily > swayed by passions ; he is a slave to lust and greed; he cannot > master his emotions of anger and envy ,he is full of hate; he is a > victim of 'fear' etc... > > on account of all this animal-like dispostion, such a person is not > allowed to practice the pancha-makaras. (the five rituals ) > > OUR LORD SHIVA IS CALLED **** PASHUPATI**** because he has conquered > all the 'pashu-like' qualities... more on this later in another > post.... > ********************************************************************** > > who is competent to practice the ritual with the > five ingredients or makaras? > > It is undoubetedly the sadhaka with the heroic disposition or what we > call vira.Such a man has the strength and the courage to' play > with FIRE' ! FOR HE CAN EASILY BURN AWAY HIS WORLDLY > BONDS AND TIES. how? for he has self-control and even > in the most trying circumstances such a man of > heroic disposition does not yield to temptation. our > hero is fearless; pure in motive; gentle in speech; > physically strong; intelligent; courageous; full of virtue > and still humble and only values what is good and > just. > > it is a person who has this 'heroic' disposition that can > practice 'vira' sadhana... more on this ln another post! > > ********************************************************************** > > now, we come to the third and the best of > all sadhakas! The sadhaka of divine (divya) > disposition has risen above all the bonds of desire and has > nothing to sublimate.such a sadhaka is the beloved of all! > he is , introspective, steady, sagacious, > and solicitous about others' welfare. He never > swerves from the path of truth and can do no evil. Good > in every way, he is regarded as the embodiment of > Siva. In his worship he does not need physical aids for > rousing his spiritual emotions; the meditative mood is > spontaneous with him. He is always in ecstasy, enjoying > `inner woman and wine.' For the five ingredients used by > a hero he substitutes consciousness (chit), bliss > (ananda), and exaltation (bhava). > > our beloved shri ramakrishna, adi shankara, shri ramana maharishi, > shri aurobindo , swami vivekananda are all spiritual aspirants of > *divya * disposition... > ********************************************************************** > how can bhavas be compared to the three gunas? In the pashu bhava, the > dominant guna is *tamas* - characteristics such as DOUBT > (BHRANTI), , drowsiness (tandra), and sloth (alasya).BUT, > paSHU DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ****bad**** ALL IT > MEANS IS SUCH A PERSON IS bound by the bonds (pasha) of > worldly passions > these are pity (daya), ignorance and delusion (moha), fear > (bhaya), 4) shame (lajja), disgust > (ghrina), family (kula),) custom > (shila),and caste (varna).SUCH A MAN OF PASHU > BHAVA IS A WORLDLY MAN- who is in bondage.! > > >now, how can a man of pashu bhava free himself from > the pashas? >BY SURRENDERING TO THE DIVINE > MOTHER - *****pashupasha-vimochini*****, Liberatrix of > the pashu from his bondage! > > > to be continued... > > spurna, hope this helps.... > > hari om tat sat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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