Abilene paradox- a group dynamics?

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hi kirk, this is free forum- let anyone and everyone express their

feelings freely.

 

in every group setting, there is diversity - diversity of various

kinds- people from different cultural/ethnic backgrounds,people from

different faiths, people with different levels of education or

understanding - so on and so forth...

 

 

Groups are made of different individuals with different temperaments -

we do not know the emotional make up of each individual-

 

we do need to take into consideration the opinions from all members

of the group tand that is why polls are conducted- that is why

participation in polls are important- if you want to have a

real 'say' in the dymanics of the day to day functioning of the

group... these opinions may take the form of 'fears, defenses,

fantasies, projections etc."

 

we have some members who do not even express any opinion ; there are

others who threaten to leave or flee; and some others who are passive

and just follow the majority.

 

so, kirk- let us sit back and relax!!!

 

 

moving on, since you like to learn from upanishads, here is a

favorite verse of mine from isha upanishds...

 

in fact, Mahatma gandhi said " in fact, If all the Upanishads and all

the other Scriptures happened all of a sudden to be reduced to ashes,

and if only the first verse in the Ishopanishad were left

in the memory of the Hindus, Hinduism would live forever"

 

here is the ......

 

the first verse of Isha Upanishad

 

 

IshAvAsyam idam sarvam

 

yat kinca jagatyAm jagat

 

tena tyaktena bhunjIthA

 

mA gRidhah kasya svid dhanam

 

 

Meaning of this verse

 

 

"Everything animate or inanimate that is within the universe is

controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept only

those things necessary for himself, which are set aside as his quota,

and one should not accept other things, knowing well to whom they

belong."

 

kirk, enjoy and leave rest to god/ess!!! life is too short to fret

and fume over trivial things!!!

 

love

[Guest guest]

I don't know what you're referring to. Are you sure this relates to me?

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adi_shakthi16

Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:44 PM

Abilene paradox- a group dynamics?

hi kirk, this is free forum- let anyone and everyone express their

feelings freely. in every group setting, there is diversity -

diversity of various kinds- people from different cultural/ethnic

backgrounds,people from different faiths, people with different

levels of education or understanding - so on and so forth... Groups

are made of different individuals with different temperaments -we do

not know the emotional make up of each individual- we do need to

take into consideration the opinions from all members of the group

tand that is why polls are conducted- that is why participation in

polls are important- if you want to have a real 'say' in the dymanics

of the day to day functioning of the group... these opinions may take

the form of 'fears, defenses, fantasies, projections etc." we have

some members who do not even express any opinion ; there are others

who threaten to leave or flee; and some others who are passive and

just follow the majority. so, kirk- let us sit back and relax!!!

moving on, since you like to learn from upanishads, here is a

favorite verse of mine from isha upanishds...in fact, Mahatma gandhi

said " in fact, If all the Upanishads and all the other Scriptures

happened all of a sudden to be reduced to ashes, and if only the

first verse in the Ishopanishad were leftin the memory of the Hindus,

Hinduism would live forever"here is the ...... the first verse of Isha

Upanishad IshAvAsyam idam sarvam yat kinca jagatyAm jagat tena

tyaktena bhunjIthA mA gRidhah kasya svid dhanam Meaning of this verse

"Everything animate or inanimate that is within the universe is

controlled and owned by the Lord. One should therefore accept only

those things necessary for himself, which are set aside as his quota,

and one should not accept other things, knowing well to whom they

belong."kirk, enjoy and leave rest to god/ess!!! life is too short to

fret and fume over trivial things!!! love To from this

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[Guest guest]

kirk, dear one!

 

of course not! it does not refer to you or anyone in particular.....

 

all i was saying is in a group like this there are members with

varying temperaments and different emotional make-ups and where there

issuch an assortment of people, there are bound to be conflicts or

differences of opinions....

 

you yourself experienced some 'reaction' not too long ago - specially

with reference to your marketing the 'rudraksha' products in

groups... some group moderators in some groups came down heavily on

you for 'advertizing' - some looked the 'other way.' personally, it

did not matter to me !

 

in a similar fashion trisdale (who rarely posts) expressed an opinion

on what the guiding lines for posting should be and made the comment -

" stop plagiarism " - i think, he has a point and he is entitled to

his opinion..

 

some materials that are posted here is common knowledge. for

example , "kali is black" - BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO ELABORATE ON

HER SADHANA, HER ICONOGRAPHY OR OTHER SUCH DETAILS and if you ae

going to borrow ideas, facts, theory etc - then it would be kind of

nice to acknowledge the sources - this gives 'credibility' to what

you are saying and also part of normal etiquette!

 

I used to do some bibiliography work for a research project- there

were strict rules and codes on compiling the bibiliography- for

example, it is not enough to say this poem is by Ramprasad sen - you

need to quote the source from which the poem was taken , who the

authors are, who the publisher is , where it was printed and in what

year etc.... this applies to graphics, pictures as well...

 

apart from all this, there are copyright violations as well....

 

but ultimately, in all fairness- as you rightly said-there is lot of

inter-dependence... and in reality nothing is 'original' - the day we

can say something 'original' we will be a candidate for a nobel

prize!

 

kirk, you are too precious ! my gurudeva always told me " overlook

the minor irritations" and focus on the main issues... and we are all

here to learn something from each other and that's all!!!

 

love and only love,