LOVE HAS NO DESIRE BUT TO FULFILL ITSELF--GIBRAN

[Guest guest]

That last reply was incomplete. I started typing it elsewhere in case

the system went down, then didn't post the whole thing:

 

Hi Adi (may I call you that?),

 

"where you shall laugh, but not all of your laughter,

and weep, but not all of your tears."

 

That brought tears to my eyes. Penkatali and I were talking about

projection, how we have projected onto people qualities we were

looking for. He later found his in the Goddess. I am still

struggling with mine.

 

I'm reading "The Eden Project, In Search of the Magical Other," by

James Hollis. In it he says we project on others that which we need

to find wholeness :

 

"When our projection hits the Other and bounces back, we experience a

kind of resonance, an intimation of wholeness, and this is a form of

homecoming simply because we are reconnecting with, falling in love

with, ourselves....

 

This re-knowing, the re-membrance, this re-cognition, is the re-

discovery of aspects of ourselves as mirrored by the Other. When the

experience is reciprocal, violins play, glowing colors fill the sky,

hope is renewed, the world begins afresh."

 

Hollis proceeds to talk about withdrawing our projection from the

Other and finding what we need in ourselves, then coming to the Other

in wholeness rather than in need.

 

Or perhaps, we find what we need in the Goddess which is in ourselves

and in others.

 

The quotation from "The Prophet" brought tears to my eyes because it

was telling me to rejoice in the loving. The idea of withdrawing the

projection also feels like withdrawing the love which feels lonely,

as does trying to find the qualities in ourselves.

 

Thoughts?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Adi,

 

I met Penkatali on another website. A mutual friend of ours has

dreams about the Goddess which he posts there. Penkatali is the best

at interpreting them. He makes them sing. So we got talking about

the Feminine Divine and he invited both of us here.

 

Enjoy your visit with your son!

 

Lynn

[Guest guest]

hi lyn,

 

yes i am having a wonderful time with my son...

 

we are indeed fortunate to have friendship of great souls- penkatali

is one of them... in fact, that is what sat sangati - means company

of great souls....

 

here is what gibran writes on friendship...

 

And a youth said,

- Speak to us of Friendship!

And he answered, saying:

Your friend is your needs answered.

He is your field which you sow with love

and reap with thanksgiving.

 

And he is your board and your fireside.

For you come to him with your hunger,

and you seek him for peace.

 

When your friend speaks his mind you fear

not the "nay" in your own mind,

nor do you withhold the "ay".

And when he is silent your heart ceases

not to listen to his heart;

For without words, in friendship, all thoughts,

all desires, all expectations are born and shared,

with joy that is unacclaimed.

When you part from your friend, you grieve not;

For that which you love most

in him may be clearer in his absence,

as the mountain to the climber

is clearer from the plain.

 

And let there be no purpose in friendship

save the deepening of the spirit.

For love that seeks aught but the disclosure

of its own mystery is not love but a net cast forth:

and only the unprofitable is caught.

 

And let your best be for your friend

that you should seek him with hours to kill?

Seek him always with hours to live.

For it is his to fill your need,

but not your emptiness.

And in the sweetness of friendship

let there be laughter, and sharing of pleasures.

For in the dew of little things

the heart finds its morning and is refreshed.

 

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i love the lines...

 

for it is his to fill your need, but not your emptiness!!!

 

any thoughts?

 

love and more love

[Guest guest]

> And let your best be for your friend

> that you should seek him with hours to kill?

> Seek him always with hours to live.

> For it is his to fill your need,

> but not your emptiness.

 

Hi Adi,

 

Yes that speaks to what I was grappling with. Perhaps the answer is

that we need to fill our own emptiness, then bring our best to our

friend to make a whole that is greater than the sum of the parts.

 

Thanks.

 

Is there a way I can get to the archives to see Penktali's

translation?

[Guest guest]

hi lyn, sorry i could not get back to you earlier. my son literally

kept me on my toes -ordering me around like a typical indian male..

mom, make me MASALA TEA ; make me pakodas (vegetable fritters-( an

indian snack -very delicious should be eaten with CHAI MASALA) - DO

THIS, DO THAT... but i also enjoy serving people -so all labor of

love!!! smiles!!!

 

well, nora to access penkatali's saundaryalahari , click on files

(under chat ) and there you will see a dicument entitled

saundarayalahari,doc- click on that ! this will take you to tehe text

and its translation... read it sllowly... there are 100 verses...

take one verse at a time ... any questions, please ask in the forum-

the verses have a lot of hidden meaning- metaphysical...

 

we are all grateful to our moderator nora for saving all of this

valuable information in the files section during our transition to

the group.

 

enjoy!! it is said that if you recite saundarya lahari with faith and

devotion, the divine mother herself will certainly manifest! in

fact, in the 100th verse, adi shankar himself acknowledges that the

it was the divine mother herself who wrote this great hymn , he was

just a mere instrument in her hands!!!

 

enjoy, dear one!!!