Guest guest Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 I agree to trisdale remarks. There is no such thing as 'clean' or 'unclean'. Its all in your mind. If you are being told again and again that you are stupid and hopeless, you eventually grow up to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2002 Report Share Posted June 3, 2002 I'm glad this discussion came up again, and I'd like to thank everyone who contributed. The restriction of individuals from religious functions on account of gender (specifically, female) or social class is not a feature of Shaktism, despite the religion's close *theological* and *theoretical* affinity to Shaivism. Shaktism's Sadhana, that is, its religious practice, tends to be a private affair, placing the devotee alone, face-to-face with Devi in whatever form. Yes, some beautiful temples (such as the Yoni Pitha at Kamarupa or Kamakhya in Assam, in which devotions are timed around the menstrual periods of the Goddess) and great holidays (such as Durga Puja) have sprung from Shaktism. But on the whole, it remains a primarily private, internal affair -- as should any religion, for that matter. However, religions have their external characteritics as well. Shortly before his death late last year, the renowned Shaivite leader, Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami, promulgated a list of 365 sutras, or aphorisms, describing the ideal life guidelines of the Shaivite. Hinduism Today published them in December of 2001 (http://www.hinduismtoday.com/2001/11-12/29-60_sutras.html). Now, it should be realized that Subramuniyaswami was deeply conservative in matters of doctrine. However, his sutras (particularly the groups beginning at Sutra 81) will give a very accurate idea of what an "ideal" traditional, Shaivite social arrangement is conceived as, even today. While most of the advice here is undoubtedly prudent and sensible for persons of any religious persuation, the sections on relations between men and women might come as a shock for non-Hindus. I would strongly request, therefore, that members refrain from attacking these sutras, which, after all, represent ancient and respected cultural norms. (In fact, I was going to post some of the more "un-Shakta" sutras here in the Group for comparison's sake, but Nora vetoed the idea, arguing that people who do not fully understand Hinduism might give them an unwarranted socio-economic spin that might be perceived -- out of context -- as an "attack" on Shaivites. So I am posting the link to the whole article, strictly for those who might be interested.) My point in doing draw attention to the fact that Shaktism -- while it is certainly not a "feminist religion" -- certainly has feminist repercussions when applied in one's everyday life. Anyone familiar with Shaktism's tenets, as frequently discussed here, will find any number of advices in Subramuniyaswami's sutras that "don't quite fit" with Shaktism. By focusing on partnership -- rather than dominance and/or segregation -- of the sexes, Shaktism (in addition to its profound spiritual power) does open up a new world of social possibilities. Again, all of this does not affect Shakta's high theology, nor is mere social activism and reform a substitute for serious Sadhana. However, every religion, applied at "street level," produces its own brand of cultural and social reality. Shaktism, being the modern incarnation of an ancient "Chalice" (Mother-Goddess-focused) religion, necessarily has some very different grassroots ramifications than the "Blade" (Father-God-focused) religions that are its Hindu brethren. Aum Maatangyai Namahe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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