Veda vs. Tantra ( A repost )

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sunelectric101

 

Namaste,

 

At the risk of stiring the pot, could the difference between Vedic

and Tantic thought be explained? The seperation between these two

streams of thought is not clear to me. They seem to interpenetrate

and mingle in many places.

 

adi_shakthi16

you are right sunelectric because the tantras do incorporate some of

the ideas of vedanta , sankhya and saiva siddhanta. but, as dreamy

and devi bhakta has so eloquently pointed out in many posts- tantra

shastra is one shastra that cannot be 'explained' fully or 'learned'

from clubs... if one is serious about learning 'tantra' one

needs the guidance of a 'true' tantric guru! and it is by nature

a 'guhya' sastra (a 'secret and a sacred' shastra) that cannot

be 'publicly' discussed! even vedanta cannot be learned from books

or scriptures- it can only be experienced by 'sadhna'!

 

adreamgodus

Om Shanti...

Thank you dearheart, our Adi...i had wanted to respond to this and

have been amiss...and will only jot down a few lines now, as it is

rather late...

Dear Sun..The Vedas and Tantras have an interesting history as both

rivals that also share a family history that spans thousands of

years... and this will often depend on which particular school one

focuses on as to, how the relationship or lack of one has developed

between the Vedas and the Tantras... much debate is given to this

very question and the initial question: which came first: the Vedas

or the Tantras--again, there is still some debate on this point...

yet, i will endeavor to respond to your query in the Tantra club..i

will need to refer to a few 'facts' from a book or two [ahh..those

books!], and refer to a few historical references.

 

Yet, as Our Adi mentioned, some features of Tantra are rather

difficult to express ..for a variety of reasons, but, the primary

being...

 

Tantra expects us to realize by ourselves and to keep the method and

scope of these realizations private. It is the Gurudeva that provides

the spark--shaktipat to the fuel that will burn away Maya--but, it is

the devotee that must fan those tender flames...

 

So, as sadhakas, one and all, we seek that which will lead us closer

and closer home.. these clubs offer this service--as gentle guides

for the sadhaka to the more subtle points of inner light so that the

sadhaka may ponder and realize themselves.

 

This is why i often say that Tantra is not a passive affair..it is

hard work, no one can just sit back and hope that the Divine Light

will be just given.. like a sermon in church.

Dear Sun, your excellent question has caused a series of semi

unrelated answeres--this is good, for, it shows how keen you are on

understanding more. This is the way of a Tantrik

sadhaka...excellent! A Sadhaka that earns enlightenment through

meditation, sadhana [right living] and service.