Guest guest Posted October 10, 2002 Report Share Posted October 10, 2002 Vanakkam Sarabhaanana My sincere thanks to you for correcting us. I hope you will continue to do service for MOTHER by correcting us more often, as I believe we learn from our mistakes. After all we ( or rather me in particular ) is just an inexperience Sadhak, So who am I to say what is right, and what is wrong. But I remember a quote which says "what we know is just a grains of hand, what we don't know is the whole lot out there !!" And I carry this quote with me all the time. I am not in the position to quote from scriptures but one thing is that, there are many scriptures. And different people can interprete the same scriptures differently, as our beloved member blu-ochs once mentioned in his message 2978 " why there exists so many different interpretations of classic scriptures like the Bhagavadgita, Brahma Sutras, the Upanishads, Shiva Sutras, Devi Mahatmya, etc... Everyone of us cannot avoid imposing a fraction of our subconscious attitudes and values on all that we read" So ….. to me to argue or even to debate about it will not serve any purpose. Our learned former member Nsrravi once remind us in his message 2594 "This forum is being sometimes used to show off erudition……. The aim of such elevated forums as these should be to trascend maya. I request the highly accomplished Sadhakas to ensure that this happens…. " But I believe in one thing and that is to respect other people's opinion. So I would never go around saying "Sick and tired of hearing this again and again" or " I am telling you again and again". A wise elderly man told me once 1. " if you go to a temple or somebody's house and you don't like what they are doing or say, just leave quietly." 2. "if you have nothing nice to say to anyone, then it is best to maintain silence" which reminds me the wise words of Swami Rama "The best of all knowledge, the greatest of all powers, come from silence" And Swami Rama remind us again: "A person walking on the path of self- transformation should be aware of the dangers of egoism. Even while practicing the great virtues of truthfulness and nonviolence, a person can feed the ego. The ego related to the realm of spirituality is more subtle and injurious than the ego related to one's worldly success"[sadhana: the essence of Spiritual life] "Only pictures show her as riding tiger. Remember that pictures are drawn by artists and painters not necessarily by well learned shaktas" I see it as this : a tiger and a lion are from the same group we called CATS or the latin word Felius Catus ( Domesticated Cat) and Felius Vercata Maniculata ( Wild Cats) but for short we called them FELIDS. I am a great lover of Black Cat and a founder of one of the black cat group. There are big and small cats. House cats and wild cats. Within that CATS family itself there are various other classifications of cats based on their breed and their colour. But they are CATS. The first true cats were found at the beginning of the Pliocene Period, which was about 12 million years ago and scientist believe that a small "weasel-like" animal called "Miacis" roamed the Earth. They are now convinced that this animal was the ancestor of today's domestic cats, as well as the ancestor for other mammals including raccoons, dogs and bears. It was about 40 million years ago that actual members of the cat family first appeared. The Egyptians were believe to be the first group of people to domesticate a cat. They even have a Cat Goddess called Bastet. So instead of trying to strain our head about tigers and lions ( unless of course you are passionate about them), and why is Devi riding on a tiger instead of a lion as the scriptures says, I like to look beyond these forms and instead focus on the symbolism behind it. Even our most learned member Adi Shakthi16 have reminded us many many times in her message "we must look beyond names and forms". Why don't explore this symbolism of tiger/lion. A member asked me once, why Tiger/Lion or specifically Cat in general associated with EGO. Well I told him, you are talking to a person who is born in the year of the Cat : The Tiger. As we all know almost all cultures associated ferociousness, fierceness and power with Cats. I like to share a joke : "Dogs believe they are human, Cats believe they are GOD!". Well I have another joke which goes "GOD gives a DOG to human to teach him about companionship, GOD gives human a CAT to teach him humility". This is a long joke, if anybody interested email me and I will send it to you. Okay lets be serious now !!! So when I see MOTHER with either a Tiger or Lion, I am seeing myself. A reminder that if I surrender the "Tiger" or the "Lion" in me to MOTHER, SHE will guide me through. "drawn by artists and painters not necessarily by well learned shaktas" Let me tell you a story : When Devi Bhakta showed me the picture of Matangi Devi [ the one that he painted himself ] he was full of doubts, as to weather anybody would accept it. To me I accepted it immediately. I am seeing a beautiful work from a person who have a pure love for MOTHER. But you see I am a close friend, so my acceptance still have not convinced him. He exclaimed once during our chat session "who am I? I am not a learned person. Others will asked : how dare him … to even paint Mother !!!!" . I went back home and showed it to my father in law, who manages a modest Kali Shrine. I didn't even tell him that the picture is from a good friend. But I could see his eyes shine with delight when he saw that picture. He looked and smile continuously only then I told him about the painter. He left the picture in the family pooja room and went to the shrine that Friday evening. My brother in law called the next day to asked me about the picture and he said that his father has been talking about it to everybody who came to the temple. He is never like that. Always a modest and quiet man. I spend sometime rationalizing this "irrational" behaviour of my father-in-law. You see Sarabhaanana this is a very simple minded person. He is not an intellectuals who would come to the and discuss about religious issues. What he have is pure devotion for MOTHER. And when he sees an image of MOTHER he accepts it, as Shre Ramakrishna himself says, once you have realize MOTHER, you will see MOTHER in everything. And for this simple minded person to have the talent to paint MOTHER, that person must be guided, other wise MOTHER herself would not allow him to touch it. And for him to have a daughter in law who knows the painter of that particular image he is so "crazy" about is an honour to him, something for him to be proud about. It might not be for others, but to him it is for he is just A SIMPLE MINDED MAN !!!!. And I personally believe simplicity itself is MOTHER. MOTHER is Simplicity. It is us human who likes to make simple matters so complex. We fight and argue over trival issues. As one ancient sayings goes "War is little man quarrels magnified a million times" In one of your message you remarked "if you cannot follow this, then stick to the scriptures" Ironic though, I have the opportunity to chat with an aghore who remarked : "don't get yourself stuck with the scriptures, must expand your mind" But this is the net Sarabhaanana. I have learned that in the net people can claim to be anybody or anything. This is a good place where people can have their "fantasy" come true. That is why we have to be very very careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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