Simhavahini or sheroNwali maa?

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Dear DEVI_BHAKTAS! first. let me wish all devotees in this forum a

very happy and joyous Navaratri and Durga Pooja.

 

The question is being asked does our divine mother Durga devi RIDE A

TIGER OR A LION?

 

well, in bengal, i have seen the 'calenderwallahs' and other artists

show Maa Durga riding a tiger and in northern india and south

india, i have seen maa durga being shown riding a Lion!

 

IS IT BEcause IN THE EASTERN STATE OF BENGAL , Tigers abound or is it

because in the northern states , it is the lion which is king of the

jungle? what about south india where there are no tigers and no

lions but maa durga is adoringly worshipped as SIMHAVAHINI- one who

rides the lion?

 

so, geographic distribution cannot be the answer!

 

in northern india, maa is worshipped as 'sheron wali maa' - the

mother whp rides the tiger? SHER MEANS TIGER....

 

WHAT IS THE BEST VEHICLE OR VAHANA SUITED FOR OUR BELOVED MOTHER ,

the queen of the universe- sree raja rajeshweri? except The mrigraja

the king of beasts? as we all know, lion is known as the jungle

king. so, naturally, the lion is the best vehicle for our beloved

mother of the universe! for a queen what is the fittest vehicle

except the king of the jungle-

 

can anyone of us dare to sit on a Lion? maybe a dead lion but not a

live one, right? only our brave and fiery Durga mata CAN SIT ON A

LION fearlessly and in the process 'tame' the lion as well...

 

also, it is believed the lion mates only once a year... hence it is

said that the lion is not an overly 'sexed' animal-so, our durga mata

is sending us a powerful message here- by taming the 'sexual desires'

(kama or lust) , we may also be able to lotus feet of devi fast...

 

Lion is also known for its beastly nature - it is always greedily

hunting for food - food represents enjoyment of the senses here!

here, our Durga mata preaches us that we must keep our animal

instincts under control !

 

tiger or lion? what difference does it make? in the ultimate

analysis, our DIVINE MOTHER looks awesome no matter whatever vehicle

she rides whether the gentle swan as maa sarswati or as varahi riding

the boar or as maa durga riding the royal Bengal tiger !

 

om sree sree Durgayaii namaha!!!

 

ps - on another note, i want to congratulate the founders for

choosing 'Navadurga' as a theme for celebrating the navaratri

festival ! very original and beautiful!

 

i must also congratulate chumki for the gorgeous picture of MAA Durga

and her entourage arriving into Kolkutta in a boat... Our maa Durga

is known as 'tARA' -onw who helps us to cross the ocean of samsara!

on this occassion of durga puja, let us pray to 'Tara' or durga mata

TO HELP US go the shoreless ocean of sat-chit-ananda!

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Such Pictures and statues are for people who cannot meditate properly or for

those who choose to do external bhuta shuddhi. By this no offense is intended...

 

If u are capable then you should meditate on the goddess and do manas puja, what

is a picture or a statue just a piece of clay/stone or metal. It has no

significance even with prana pratista it only gives u karmic merits.

 

If u do meditative puja then your atma gets transformed into the devi, once this

happens you will not be asking these questions not only will you see her through

this practice more quickly but also expirence since there is no more u left only

maa.

 

Such practice is known as bhuta shuddhi and I cannot emphasise enough on this,

idolatry is good but that again is external it is better you do internal worship

as well. I am not condeming such practices I do them myself, but mostly yantra

worship and homa, homa increases bhuta agni thus meditation, concentration and

japa can be done more effectively. It is the digestive agni of you atma and

allows u to intake more spirituality.

 

The yantra transmutates your DNA into that of the devi in her ethereal or

comprehendable form. Hence you become mata (mergin in) by purging your identity.

 

This question that u r asking, if you read the devi mahatmayam and her esoteric

meaning she (mother) is hungry for blood and sacrifice, she craves it especially

in the form of kalika.

 

That does not mean you go kill a goat but your inner ego,ahamkara destroy your

indentity and be one with maa that is what she wants. Blood is offered but she

dosent want it, via the blood she takes away the rananubandhana and karmic debts

you have. Many offer her concecrated wine which is basically the desire you

mention.

 

Thus is the tiger, she rides on your courage, she prefers your will and your

actions. Surrender to her and make her ride you atma. That is the tiger, she

controls the beast within.

 

Mother Durga's tantra are a few I would advise you to read the following texts

once you have all your questions will be answered:

 

kularnava tantra, durga tantra, kulachadamini tantra, devi gita, maha kala

samhita and durga paddhati.

 

These texts, once you understand their pracitcal application through the

blessing of the dear mother you will then come to the realisation of their

esoteric meaning.

 

The highest forms of worship are karmic and dhyanic, i.e actions and bhuta

shuddhi with japam.

 

dum dum dum hrim hrim him kleem durgaye dum dum dum hrim hrim kleem swaha

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear kalika putra,

 

you are singing to the choir or as the britz woll say 'carrying coal

to newcastle.' ....

 

i was not raising a question whether maa should be viewed as one

riding a tiger or a lion ? rather, i was adding comments to the

discussion that was already in progress ...

 

i have always maintained we should go beyond names and forms' -

whether dUrga mata is 'fair complexioned' or whether she has 8 or 10

arms or even eighteen etc are matter of technical details.... but to

a sadhaka who is the beginning stges of 'bhakti' , forms do have

meaning and added significance....before proceeding to manasika puja,

one needs to discipline oneself by resorting to 'ritualistic' puja

through worship of 'prana' pratishta... even the great shri

ramakrishna performed worship to saguna brahman in the form of maa

kaali before proceeding to meditating on nirguna brahman... after

all, we are all lesser mortals....

 

please read all my earlier posts on adi shankara's mansika puja and

the right handed path and then you will know my thoughts on this... i

am all for manasika puja but it is not for everyone...

 

by now, those who are familiar with devi bhagvatam knows that the

demons are within - lust, anger, arrogance, ego, greed, ignorance etc

are all the demons - madhu, kaitabha, raktabija, mahisasura are only

the external ames for these intenal demons .... Likewise who is durga

mata? she is the \divinity' within - but to come to an understanding

of this tattwa, we need the discipline of japa, tapa and dhyana -

tantra, mantra and yantra!!

 

but thankx as always for your well-informed comments...

 

sree sree durgayaii namaha!

 

 

, Kalika Putra <dakinic_monk> wrote:

>

> Such Pictures and statues are for people who cannot meditate

properly or for those who choose to do external bhuta shuddhi. By

this no offense is intended...

>

> If u are capable then you should meditate on the goddess and do

manas puja, what is a picture or a statue just a piece of clay/stone

or metal. It has no significance even with prana pratista it only

gives u karmic merits.

>

> If u do meditative puja then your atma gets transformed into the

devi, once this happens you will not be asking these questions not

only will you see her through this practice more quickly but also

expirence since there is no more u left only maa.

>

> Such practice is known as bhuta shuddhi and I cannot emphasise

enough on this, idolatry is good but that again is external it is

better you do internal worship as well. I am not condeming such

practices I do them myself, but mostly yantra worship and homa, homa

increases bhuta agni thus meditation, concentration and japa can be

done more effectively. It is the digestive agni of you atma and

allows u to intake more spirituality.

>

> The yantra transmutates your DNA into that of the devi in her

ethereal or comprehendable form. Hence you become mata (mergin in) by

purging your identity.

>

> This question that u r asking, if you read the devi mahatmayam and

her esoteric meaning she (mother) is hungry for blood and sacrifice,

she craves it especially in the form of kalika.

>

> That does not mean you go kill a goat but your inner ego,ahamkara

destroy your indentity and be one with maa that is what she wants.

Blood is offered but she dosent want it, via the blood she takes away

the rananubandhana and karmic debts you have. Many offer her

concecrated wine which is basically the desire you mention.

>

> Thus is the tiger, she rides on your courage, she prefers your will

and your actions. Surrender to her and make her ride you atma. That

is the tiger, she controls the beast within.

>

> Mother Durga's tantra are a few I would advise you to read the

following texts once you have all your questions will be answered:

>

> kularnava tantra, durga tantra, kulachadamini tantra, devi gita,

maha kala samhita and durga paddhati.

>

> These texts, once you understand their pracitcal application

through the blessing of the dear mother you will then come to the

realisation of their esoteric meaning.

>

> The highest forms of worship are karmic and dhyanic, i.e actions

and bhuta shuddhi with japam.

>

> dum dum dum hrim hrim him kleem durgaye dum dum dum hrim hrim kleem

swaha

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for a nice post, Adi_Shakthi16! You've been conspicuous by

your absence. It's nice to see you back.

 

DB

[Guest guest]

I am sorry; pardon my misinterpretation of the subject, but that is an important

point.

 

Anyways anyone here know how to do the bhuta agni prakshita homa?

 

I am firmiliar with it but require some confirmation.

 

 

 

 

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even the breath has names and with a name comes form.when brahmam is

avyayam and aprameyam, perception sinks into insignificance.

having said that , when simham is a vaahanam, that is a vehicle, then

two things become important:one; the rider must be able to ride,

i.e., overcome resistance from the animal, and second:riding means

travel, which connotes a journey and so on until we arrive at a

destination.Then it could mean that if we have to arrive, then we

must eschew vice , that is overcome temptations from impulse.

 

sarvam brahma mayam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

>

> dear kalika putra,

>

> you are singing to the choir or as the britz woll say 'carrying

coal

> to newcastle.' ....

>

> i was not raising a question whether maa should be viewed as one

> riding a tiger or a lion ? rather, i was adding comments to the

> discussion that was already in progress ...

>

> i have always maintained we should go beyond names and forms' -

> whether dUrga mata is 'fair complexioned' or whether she has 8 or

10

> arms or even eighteen etc are matter of technical details.... but

to

> a sadhaka who is the beginning stges of 'bhakti' , forms do have

> meaning and added significance....before proceeding to manasika

puja,

> one needs to discipline oneself by resorting to 'ritualistic' puja

> through worship of 'prana' pratishta... even the great shri

> ramakrishna performed worship to saguna brahman in the form of maa

> kaali before proceeding to meditating on nirguna brahman... after

> all, we are all lesser mortals....

>

> please read all my earlier posts on adi shankara's mansika puja and

> the right handed path and then you will know my thoughts on this...

i

> am all for manasika puja but it is not for everyone...

>

> by now, those who are familiar with devi bhagvatam knows that the

> demons are within - lust, anger, arrogance, ego, greed, ignorance

etc

> are all the demons - madhu, kaitabha, raktabija, mahisasura are

only

> the external ames for these intenal demons .... Likewise who is

durga

> mata? she is the \divinity' within - but to come to an

understanding

> of this tattwa, we need the discipline of japa, tapa and dhyana -

> tantra, mantra and yantra!!

>

> but thankx as always for your well-informed comments...

>

> sree sree durgayaii namaha!

>

>

> , Kalika Putra <dakinic_monk> wrote:

> >

> > Such Pictures and statues are for people who cannot meditate

> properly or for those who choose to do external bhuta shuddhi. By

> this no offense is intended...

> >

> > If u are capable then you should meditate on the goddess and do

> manas puja, what is a picture or a statue just a piece of

clay/stone

> or metal. It has no significance even with prana pratista it only

> gives u karmic merits.

> >

> > If u do meditative puja then your atma gets transformed into the

> devi, once this happens you will not be asking these questions not

> only will you see her through this practice more quickly but also

> expirence since there is no more u left only maa.

> >

> > Such practice is known as bhuta shuddhi and I cannot emphasise

> enough on this, idolatry is good but that again is external it is

> better you do internal worship as well. I am not condeming such

> practices I do them myself, but mostly yantra worship and homa,

homa

> increases bhuta agni thus meditation, concentration and japa can be

> done more effectively. It is the digestive agni of you atma and

> allows u to intake more spirituality.

> >

> > The yantra transmutates your DNA into that of the devi in her

> ethereal or comprehendable form. Hence you become mata (mergin in)

by

> purging your identity.

> >

> > This question that u r asking, if you read the devi mahatmayam

and

> her esoteric meaning she (mother) is hungry for blood and

sacrifice,

> she craves it especially in the form of kalika.

> >

> > That does not mean you go kill a goat but your inner ego,ahamkara

> destroy your indentity and be one with maa that is what she wants.

> Blood is offered but she dosent want it, via the blood she takes

away

> the rananubandhana and karmic debts you have. Many offer her

> concecrated wine which is basically the desire you mention.

> >

> > Thus is the tiger, she rides on your courage, she prefers your

will

> and your actions. Surrender to her and make her ride you atma. That

> is the tiger, she controls the beast within.

> >

> > Mother Durga's tantra are a few I would advise you to read the

> following texts once you have all your questions will be answered:

> >

> > kularnava tantra, durga tantra, kulachadamini tantra, devi gita,

> maha kala samhita and durga paddhati.

> >

> > These texts, once you understand their pracitcal application

> through the blessing of the dear mother you will then come to the

> realisation of their esoteric meaning.

> >

> > The highest forms of worship are karmic and dhyanic, i.e actions

> and bhuta shuddhi with japam.

> >

> > dum dum dum hrim hrim him kleem durgaye dum dum dum hrim hrim

kleem

> swaha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Messenger for SMS- Always be connected to your Messenger

> Friends

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Brahmadeva!

 

thank you so much for your 'illuminating' post! yes, indeed!

the 'breath' indeed has names... Prana, apana, vyana, udhana, and

samana and actually are revered as forms of God or life giving

principles!

 

as you have rightly mentioned, there is the external path (

praviritti) and internal path ( nivritti) !

 

"The Atman or what is known as 'brahman' is attributeless, formless,

pure !it is described as as Nirgunam, Niranjanam, Sanathana

Niketanam, Nitya, Suddha, Buddha, Mukta, Nirmala Swarupinam

(attributeless, pure, final abode, eternal, unsullied, enlightened,

free and embodiment of sacredness"

 

so, brahmadeva, you are absolutely right! one needs the vehicle

of 'bhakti' ( or love and devotion to god/ess ) to attain 'jnana' or

brahma-gnana! so, reaching the lotus feet mother durga is the

ultimate destination and the tiger or lion she rides is our

our 'bhakthi' which will help us to reach her lotus feet... also,

tiger or lion represents 'sensory enjoymrent ' or 'lust' (animal

instinct) we need to overcome before we can attain brahma jnana!

 

thank you for reminding us of this important 'niyama' !

 

happy vijayadasami to you!

 

love

[Guest guest]

Gyana and bhakti permeate your comment.May you continue your

spiritual service to mankind for a long time through the columns of

these kindred groups of spiritual seers and seekers.

sarvam brahma mayam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> Namaskar Brahmadeva!

>

> thank you so much for your 'illuminating' post! yes, indeed!

> the 'breath' indeed has names... Prana, apana, vyana, udhana, and

> samana and actually are revered as forms of God or life giving

> principles!

>

> as you have rightly mentioned, there is the external path (

> praviritti) and internal path ( nivritti) !

>

> "The Atman or what is known as 'brahman' is attributeless,

formless,

> pure !it is described as as Nirgunam, Niranjanam, Sanathana

> Niketanam, Nitya, Suddha, Buddha, Mukta, Nirmala Swarupinam

> (attributeless, pure, final abode, eternal, unsullied, enlightened,

> free and embodiment of sacredness"

>

> so, brahmadeva, you are absolutely right! one needs the vehicle

> of 'bhakti' ( or love and devotion to god/ess ) to attain 'jnana'

or

> brahma-gnana! so, reaching the lotus feet mother durga is the

> ultimate destination and the tiger or lion she rides is our

> our 'bhakthi' which will help us to reach her lotus feet... also,

> tiger or lion represents 'sensory enjoymrent ' or 'lust' (animal

> instinct) we need to overcome before we can attain brahma jnana!

>

> thank you for reminding us of this important 'niyama' !

>

> happy vijayadasami to you!

>

> love

[Guest guest]

What has been mention in terms of the five pranas are the basics of bhuta

shuddhi, and I also agree that they have been representated has divinity due to

the fact that they allow the opening of the kundalini.

 

Many say their chakras are open and yet they do not even have the simplest of

siddhis under their belt, it is ideal that people like you scarifice your time

to share this, I believe this is expected knowledge for those who worship the

dasha maha vidya and mother kalika, for their tantra emphasise on bhuta shuddhi

and all it elements even the panchamakara sacrement.

 

For those who want to learn about the tantric or nyana path a niyama and such

practices are important. But let us not get side tracked, these five pranas are

not to be worshipped but controlled like one's senses hence the pranayama if not

done properly if can bust your capilieries and can also cause minor things like

constipation.

 

Pranayama, archaka, homa, japa and food obilations are part of the practical

bhuta shuddhi and purify one physically, many disregard this. They go to a devi

temple offer a coconut,flowers and so on and think they are doing a favour to

the mother, but infact would not one laugh at this we do not feed her she feeds

us.

 

One must know the true essense of these rituals but not to go too deep, a true

sadhaka will know this. The easiest form of worship is namasmarana and until one

gets access to a competant master one should mostly stick to this, the navarna

viddihi is what I would precribe.

 

I am no master but this is what I started off with and helped me a lot in

comprehending the three supreme female trinity, after which kali ma was who I

stuck myself to. I would advise this to all of you, if you intend to start devi

sadhana it is fast, efficiant and if you stuff it up then you wont be punished

for it isnt hard tantra moreso nama smarana with a tinge of bhuta shuddhi just

enough that is it be pracitsed it can also lead to the opening of the kundalini.

 

I will post the whole vidhana of the navarna vidhi incl some other mantras of

mother that will help those insearch of her. You can read all these books about

tantra but what good is it? I mean these texts, their esoteric meaning is not

accounted for nor the guhya vidhi or the utkilana of the tantra. A tantra is

like a corpse it need life, sustenance and then later will she yeild anything.

The navarna vidhi is constructed so that this is not applicable. Excellent

method of worship to the three shaktis.

 

 

 

 

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Namastey,

Cld u pls post the sadhna's and some siddhi's for diwali time , i m sorry for

mailing you in private.

thanks

geet

Kalika Putra <dakinic_monk wrote:

What has been mention in terms of the five pranas are the basics of bhuta

shuddhi, and I also agree that they have been representated has divinity due to

the fact that they allow the opening of the kundalini.

 

Many say their chakras are open and yet they do not even have the simplest of

siddhis under their belt, it is ideal that people like you scarifice your time

to share this, I believe this is expected knowledge for those who worship the

dasha maha vidya and mother kalika, for their tantra emphasise on bhuta shuddhi

and all it elements even the panchamakara sacrement.

 

For those who want to learn about the tantric or nyana path a niyama and such

practices are important. But let us not get side tracked, these five pranas are

not to be worshipped but controlled like one's senses hence the pranayama if not

done properly if can bust your capilieries and can also cause minor things like

constipation.

 

Pranayama, archaka, homa, japa and food obilations are part of the practical

bhuta shuddhi and purify one physically, many disregard this. They go to a devi

temple offer a coconut,flowers and so on and think they are doing a favour to

the mother, but infact would not one laugh at this we do not feed her she feeds

us.

 

One must know the true essense of these rituals but not to go too deep, a true

sadhaka will know this. The easiest form of worship is namasmarana and until one

gets access to a competant master one should mostly stick to this, the navarna

viddihi is what I would precribe.

 

I am no master but this is what I started off with and helped me a lot in

comprehending the three supreme female trinity, after which kali ma was who I

stuck myself to. I would advise this to all of you, if you intend to start devi

sadhana it is fast, efficiant and if you stuff it up then you wont be punished

for it isnt hard tantra moreso nama smarana with a tinge of bhuta shuddhi just

enough that is it be pracitsed it can also lead to the opening of the kundalini.

 

I will post the whole vidhana of the navarna vidhi incl some other mantras of

mother that will help those insearch of her. You can read all these books about

tantra but what good is it? I mean these texts, their esoteric meaning is not

accounted for nor the guhya vidhi or the utkilana of the tantra. A tantra is

like a corpse it need life, sustenance and then later will she yeild anything.

The navarna vidhi is constructed so that this is not applicable. Excellent

method of worship to the three shaktis.

 

 

 

 

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