what is meant by conversion? COVERSION-FAKE OR REAL?

[Guest guest]

dear members of shakti sadhana....

 

folks, in recent times we have seen many acts of violence committed

by hindus against muslims and by muslims against hindus in the

western state of Gujarat... first, there was the train burning

incident by muslims - then the outraged hindus recated violently by

setting many muslim colonies on 'fire' killing hundreds... then to

top it all, we recently witnessed an incident where a few islamic

terrorists killed hindu devotees in the swami-narain temple...

every time, hindus attack muslims - i feel so outraged that i want to

convert to islam and anytime muslims attack and kill hindus i want to

cling on to my own religion and sever my ties with muslim friends....

i feel ashamed of being a Hindu when fellow hindus kill muslims .

 

this made me think long and hard- is conversion the answer? what is

conversion - conversion means to change - change what? change your

manner or method of worship? go to mosque instead of the temple? read

the koran instead of the bhagwat gita? cover my head and wear a

burqha? say my prayers five times a day ?

 

no dear ones, conversion is not this - conversion is beyond all

this....

 

conversion, to be real - is ****transformation****** - it is not the

wearing of a MASK -

 

IT IS CHANGE OF CONSCIOUSNESS - TRANSFORMATION OF THE HEART....

 

YOU TRANSFORM INTO A HUMAN BEING - A CARING, LOVING HUMNAN BEING -

not a hindu, not a muslim, not a jew , not a jain, not a buddhist not

a christian BUT SIMPLY A LOVING, TENDER, CARING, SOULFUL HUMAN BEING!

 

WHEN THERE IS CHANGE IN CONSCIOUSNESS , THERE IS REAL 'CONVERSION' -

otherwise it is merely 'perversion' - what is the use of chnging

religions, if one continues to be an extremist, a fanatic or a

fundamentalist?

 

conversion does not mean 'changing from one religion to another'

there is only one RELIGION - that is the religion of LOVE as our

beloved ibn-arabi ould say...

 

here i would like to narrate a story ....

 

There is a story that comes out of Asia about a farmer

who saw a tiger's tail swishing between two large rocks. In a

moment of haste, he grabbed the tail and pulled. All of a

sudden he realized he had an angry tiger by the tail and only two

rocks stood between him and the tiger's teeth and claws! So there

he remained, afraid to loosen his grip on the enraged animal's

tail lest he surely be killed.

 

A monk happened by and the farmer called out in

desperation, "Come over here and help me kill this tiger!"

 

The holy man said, "On, no. I cannot do that. I cannot

take the life of another." Then he went on to deliver a homily

against killing. All the while, the farmer was holding tightly to

the tail of an angry tiger.

 

When the monk finally finished his sermon, the farmer

pleaded, "If you won't kill the tiger, then at least come hold

its tail while I kill it."

 

The monk thought that perhaps it would be all right to

simply hold the tiger's tail, so he grabbed hold and pulled. The

farmer, however, turned and walked away down the road.

 

The monk shouted after him, "Come back here and kill the

tiger!"

 

"Oh, no," the farmer replied. "You have converted me!"

 

many hindus pride themselves on practicing SANATANA dHARMA... BU, AT

THE SLIGHTEST PROVOCATION, HINDUS ALSO RESORT TO VIOLENCE - as in

gujarat- killing hundreds of innocent muslim women and children...

 

the word 'hindu' is defined as - "na hinayate iti hindu" =- one who

does not harm is a hindu - so if we harm an kill others we are not

fit to be called hindus... what is the difference between a

fundamental christian, a fanatic hindu or an islamic extremist?

 

so, folks.... what we need is not just conversion but a real

transformation - transformation of the HEART!

 

"O God, I ain't what I ought to be

and I ain't what I'm a-goin' to be.

But thanks to you, I ain't what I used to be!"

 

 

 

LOVE AND BLESSINGS

[Guest guest]

Hello

> THE SLIGHTEST PROVOCATION, HINDUS ALSO RESORT TO VIOLENCE - as in

> gujarat- killing hundreds of innocent muslim women and children...

 

 

They dont . It took 1000 yrs of provocation. There is no use of

this comparision. Muslim violence is beyond comparision.

>

> the word 'hindu' is defined as - "na hinayate iti hindu" =- one who

> does not harm is a hindu - so if we harm an kill others we are not

> fit to be called hindus...

 

The above definition is not correct. The reason being the

word hindu is not a sanskrit word. The word hindu does not appear in

any of the scriptures. Whoever gave that definition of hindu is just

making up something.

>what is the difference between a

> fundamental christian, a fanatic hindu or an islamic extremist?

 

A fanatic hindu respects other religions while other fanatics

dont. That is the difference.

 

good luck.