Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Namaste Nora! >From what I know, white lotus bead malas are used for japa of saraswati mantras and pink lotus bead malas for laxmi mantras(if anyone knows where I can get these from, please let me know). Perhaps the colors have to do with the aura- white in the aura indicates, purity, sattwa, the dawn of true knowledge, so mother saraswati; pink the aura indicates loving kindness without any expectation, after all when you want the good things in life, who else do you go to other than mother laxmi. Blue lotus if I am not mistaken is associated with tara. Aum Namasivaya yogaman 1) Is there any symbolic significance between pink and white lotus. I remembered someone told me about A blue lotus and its particular association with a Goddess ( I forgot which Goddess it is) 2) Based on my observation ( please correct me if im wrong ), Saraswati Devi almost always seen sitting or with White Lotus, whilst others like Lakshmi Maa with Pink Lotus. Is there a symbolic reason behind this difference? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 , Yoga man <childofdevi> wrote: > 2) Based on my observation ( please correct me if im > wrong ), > Saraswati Devi almost always seen sitting or with > White Lotus, whilst > others like Lakshmi Maa with Pink Lotus. Is there a > symbolic reason > behind this difference? It could be that Saraswati Devi is considered to be the first manifested point during the Almighty's creation of the world: the primordial tension/bindu prior to the manifestation of matter. Also, all other colours are said to be contained within white. Hence the association. When the manifested worlds become more concretized and tangible, Sri Saraswati transmutes into Mother Lakshmi. And later, as the worlds and its inhabitants become more complicated, diverse, evil and contentious, Parvati/Durga Devi steps in to clean things up and put the universe back in order. :^) nb: The above is my (questionable) summary of a scholarly text on Navaratri I'd read earlier this year. Saraswati: cool White Lakshmi: rosy Pink Durga: BLOOD RED RED RED I think there is an ingenious color-scheme at work here. <g> Om Tat Sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Lotus seeds and flowers are mostly used in the rituals of paralysis; or to attract. Lotus beads resonate special magnetic fields that amplify the mantra's oscillation. The lotuses I am talking about aren't your everyday ones but ones that grow in a valley further away from the hunza in the Himalayas. The Brahma Padma is one such; it is offered to lord Badri and anyone with nay kind of mental illness if they consume this plant it will leave them let it even be brain damage due to it's extreme regenerative ability. There is also Kamoda Padma which again is very rare and can only be attained through a yakshini or chetaki since it is celestial in nature (it takes 3 years of sadhana to obtain one such) offer eleven such to Lord Shiva and immortality is granted in the form of your Kundalini opening hence instead of hormones; amrita is produced in your glands. That is why many tantrics call on demi goddesses and gods since most ingredients in true tantra are celestial in nature, the tantra of lord shiva is regarded one of the best and to invoke him fully one needs to do this particular sadhana, that is why in ancient times kubera the king of yakshas was also invoked in shiva rituals not cause of any myth but esoteric association. If eleven such padmas are placed on a linga it becomes just a powerful as a jyotir linga but the thing is Higher Yakshinis are very difficult to call upon, they are more alluring then the apsaras. The yellow hakeek rosary is good in the worship of mother saraswati, the red in Lakshmi and the Black in Kalika; I would advise you all to get a rudraksha mala, the rudraksha beads have to be self hollowed and not holed by man, it has to be healthy and thorny. Nice and large like the large chickpea or amala. The white is the best for people who have chosen the path of a divya, the brownish for those who are in the path of the veera or your common sadhaka and the black for the pasu. Another word on a pashu, he/she is a person who does a sadhana for worldly gain or any desire what so ever, note this since if you start off any Tantric ritual with any desire even if it is darshan of that deity there is an 80 percent chance it may not work. If you are using padma mala then mantras that have the bijas blum, and shrim or aim are the quite beneficial. With the haakeek hrim, aim, kleem (depending on colour) is also good with rudraska aum, hum, ram, rim, dum and a variety of other bijas are excellent. The skull mala (where a portion of the skull, of the medulla region is taken out; not the whole skull but that portion only) is one that is mostly used in aghora sadhanas. That is the most exotic mala and there is a good reason why one uses this, but if I reveal it then some may pursue getting such a mala and may get hurt in the process of using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 How do all the folks foreign to the Himalayas ever attain Siva? Kathy kalika Putra <dakinic_monk wrote: Lotus seeds and flowers are mostly used in the rituals of paralysis; or to attract. Lotus beads resonate special magnetic fields that amplify the mantra's oscillation. The lotuses I am talking about aren't your everyday ones but ones that grow in a valley further away from the hunza in the Himalayas. The Brahma Padma is one such; it is offered to lord Badri and anyone with nay kind of mental illness if they consume this plant it will leave them let it even be brain damage due to it's extreme regenerative ability. There is also Kamoda Padma which again is very rare and can only be attained through a yakshini or chetaki since it is celestial in nature (it takes 3 years of sadhana to obtain one such) offer eleven such to Lord Shiva and immortality is granted in the form of your Kundalini opening hence instead of hormones; amrita is produced in your glands. That is why many tantrics call on demi goddesses and gods since most ingredients in true tantra are celestial in nature, the tantra of lord shiva is regarded one of the best and to invoke him fully one needs to do this particular sadhana, that is why in ancient times kubera the king of yakshas was also invoked in shiva rituals not cause of any myth but esoteric association. If eleven such padmas are placed on a linga it becomes just a powerful as a jyotir linga but the thing is Higher Yakshinis are very difficult to call upon, they are more alluring then the apsaras. The yellow hakeek rosary is good in the worship of mother saraswati, the red in Lakshmi and the Black in Kalika; I would advise you all to get a rudraksha mala, the rudraksha beads have to be self hollowed and not holed by man, it has to be healthy and thorny. Nice and large like the large chickpea or amala. The white is the best for people who have chosen the path of a divya, the brownish for those who are in the path of the veera or your common sadhaka and the black for the pasu. Another word on a pashu, he/she is a person who does a sadhana for worldly gain or any desire what so ever, note this since if you start off any Tantric ritual with any desire even if it is darshan of that deity there is an 80 percent chance it may not work. If you are using padma mala then mantras that have the bijas blum, and shrim or aim are the quite beneficial. With the haakeek hrim, aim, kleem (depending on colour) is also good with rudraska aum, hum, ram, rim, dum and a variety of other bijas are excellent. The skull mala (where a portion of the skull, of the medulla region is taken out; not the whole skull but that portion only) is one that is mostly used in aghora sadhanas. That is the most exotic mala and there is a good reason why one uses this, but if I reveal it then some may pursue getting such a mala and may get hurt in the process of using one. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 , kathy rabold <karatagi34677> wrote: > > How do all the folks foreign to the Himalayas ever attain Siva? Kathy Through pure, unflagging devotion? "When the heart calls, God must come." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 Satchitananda Kathy gene-is-in <aureusirius wrote:, kathy rabold <karatagi34677> wrote: > > How do all the folks foreign to the Himalayas ever attain Siva? Kathy Through pure, unflagging devotion? "When the heart calls, God must come." Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Don't have to be so mocking, like I said those regions of the Himalayas cannot be accessed by your normal man, it is protected. Only through the grace of mother yogini or yakshini can you get those items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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