to kalika putra on mantra japa

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>Most mantras have hidden bijas, once you get all the

>correct bijas, Shakti

>and keelkam you must join them together forming a new

>mantra. This has to be

 

are common mantras like the gayatri and mrityumjaya

done this way; or do they have hidden bijas in them

that one should get from a guru?

>or bondage.To master a mantra you must say it a

>certain amount of times in a

>breath,let me explain. All mantras are energy

 

 

KP you mentioned that the mantra must be chanted 108

times in a breath- this would imply that someone who

has been practising breathing excercises for a long

time would have great progress in mantra sadhana. this

would also mean that someone who wants rapid progress

in mantra sadhana should first master breath, since

long mantras such as gayatri would take at least a few

minutes to chant 108 times. this makes some sense to

me because after all breath and mind are correlated;

so someone who has mastered breath has mastered mind,

so mantra siddhi comes quickly. but surely breath

cannot the main thing, arent there other things such

as visualization and emotion that are just as

important. breath helps you control beta brain waves,

visualization puts you in an alpha state and emotion

put some theta content(beta, alpha and theta are brain

waves of different frequencies)- when you have all

three in control, it leads you to a delta state which

is where one has psychic experiences such as visions

of the deity etc.

 

so coming back to the topic of mantra sadhana you

mentioned breath, what about the others visualization

(is this where the yantra comes in) and emotion.

 

and also if breath was the main criteria for mantra

siddhi, wouldnt it be easier to attain siddhi in

shorter mantras than for longer mantras?

>signatures they must have the

>rightrhythm and frequency to accurately resonate

>around your body. I can go on

>and on about this, and if you want me to I can.

 

please elaborate more on this as this is fairly

uncharted territory for most people including myself.

 

 

 

 

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Breath is the main thing along with bhuta Shuddhi since it resonates the

prana energy vital for the chakra opening, yes if you have mastered

Pranayama it will take you just minutes to master a sadhana.

 

The gayatri is a fake mantra, it lacks 22 bijas add them then you get the

true gayatri saying that 108 times gives you nirvakalpa samadhi, people who

practice it usually go and submerge themselves in a river this is cause the

gayatri stimulates the surya nadi which can practically fry your body hence

you need to submerge yourself.

 

The gayatri without the bija mantra in tantra is known as the savitri mantra

or the pure mantra since it cannot cause harm to you. Yes the mrityunjaya

also has bijas I will give you some OM GLAUM HUM KLEEM JUM SAH add that

infront of the mrityunjaya mantra there is three missing I cannot reveal

them to you since they would make the mantra 25 times more powerful then the

gayatri's effect.

 

Samartha Ramadasa did the true gayatri sadhana for 20 years he attained the

ability to ressurect the dead.

 

 

 

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> The gayatri is a fake mantra, it lacks 22 bijas add them then you

>get the

 

KP, the gayatri chandas is 24 syllables long, so by adding another 22

beejas, this is no longer in the gayatri chandas; so i assume that

the chandas for the real gayatri mantra is not the gayatri chandas.

 

may i ask why is that all the saints without exception has glorified

the savitri as being the most glorious of mantras?? i have at least

10 books on the gayatri written by self-realised souls and all of

them write about the savitri; and besides even in tantra, most

notably the gayatri tantra and the prapanchasara tantra write only on

the savitri without any reference to the real gayatri.

>

> The gayatri without the bija mantra in tantra is known as the

savitri mantra

> or the pure mantra since it cannot cause harm to you. Yes the

mrityunjaya

> also has bijas I will give you some OM GLAUM HUM KLEEM JUM SAH add

 

dakinic_monk, is this better that the bija OM HRAUM OM JUM SAH OM

BHUR BHUVAS SWAH that is added to the mrityumjaya mantra(also known

as the mritasanjeevani mantra)

 

 

hmm.. interesting, samarth ramadasa was a great hanuman bhakta who

resuscitated hinduism in maharashtra 500 years back; did not know

that he did gayatri sadhana.

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The savitri mantra no doubt is powerful, I have not come across the real

gayatri mantra. I don't know if the chandah thing you are talking will be

applicable however when you add those bijas it gets amplified around a few

million times so it is basically the savitri mantra but by adding those

bijas you don't have to chant it as much.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well mantras and their sadhanas aren't fully mentioned on the net however, I

really don't look for stuff. I don't have the time on my hands. Try this

www.sacred-texts.com <http://www.sacred-texts.com/> they have a translation

of maha niravana tantra however it dosent deal with the esoteric meaning

hence of no use to me,.