Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 I can only laugh; my friend the devi gita is applicable to all Shakti sadhana; it is the holy word of the female divinity. I do agree with levels you are talking about, but you cannot reach another chakra whilst your mooladhara isn't fully awaken, when you open muladhara the bhumi bhuta or earth element is what your first realise hence gravity will no prevail. In the process you will feel your lower body sweating a great deal when you do sadhana then your whole body will tremble, later on sweet oils will come out of your sweat glands and then you attain levitation. You can go up or down the Kundalini since there is like 7 or three chakras below the muladhara however that I think is known as asuri sadhanas. Any sadhana that makes you offer animal sacrifice, self torture, sexual acts or any rajasic acts is known as asuri siddhanta and although very very fast gives you bad karma. Babaji is totally against this hence I cannot delve into this. Devi is divine and there isn't any pre requisite to get her darshan, I was a pitiful little *censored* and Devi took pitty on my many attempts, I always used to have ropes and chains next to me to tie her up when she comes I think that was the reason why she didn't showup the first time. LOL I did ask Babaji and he mentioned that without doing the utkilana rituals and a Guru's grace one can never attain sadhana, I already saw Shiva and Vishnu as my gurus and Devi thus gave me this boon, I haven't opened my Kundalini if I did I would be doing tapas right now. I am honoured that you can think so highly of me, but to tell you the truth all my attempts were pathetic. I never liked tantra and am still not really fond of it since I don't understand it much, there isn't any rajasic or tamasic ritual that I do; the only things partially tamasic is the bali of coconut, lime and white vinegar instead of alcohol. But like I said Asuri Sadhana isn't all that good however there are exceptions like for instance the worship of Dakini, she is rajasic in nature but that doesn't mean you go around slaughtering animals and offering your blood. I am dead against Animal Sacrifice and the only rajasic offerings that I can cite is one's own blood and rum but even then I personally don't do that. Let me put it this way the way one worships Lord Vishnu should be the way one worships all Gods and Goddesses and a purely satvic way and mostly mental. The only bali that Gods crave is of your animal instincts and your ahamkara. Chamundi is usually associated as a blood consuming form of Durga, but she is just the destroyer of your bad senses, Kali is all consuming she burns and consumes your bad karma. There is a esoteric side to these rituals and the higher you go the less physical rituals you shall do, it is just a means of focusing, a form of visualisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Dear friends, this is the first time i am interacting with u all though i read all mail with interest. Yes you are absolutely right. If you look at it right Kali is very sweet and never wants a bali of animals and the puja is equivalent to Vishnu puja and very satvic, though Her picturisation is different. If u can perceive Her u will know that She is absolutely satvic and does not infact like Bali of Her own children. The best She would like if at all is Satvic Ahar. The more u worship Her, the less of rituals u can do. love to one and all, sujatha --- kalika Putra <dakinic_monk wrote: > > > I can only laugh; my friend the devi gita is > applicable to all Shakti > sadhana; it is the holy word of the female divinity. > I do agree with levels > you are talking about, but you cannot reach another > chakra whilst your > mooladhara isn't fully awaken, when you open > muladhara the bhumi bhuta or > earth element is what your first realise hence > gravity will no prevail. > > In the process you will feel your lower body > sweating a great deal when you > do sadhana then your whole body will tremble, later > on sweet oils will come > out of your sweat glands and then you attain > levitation. > > You can go up or down the Kundalini since there is > like 7 or three chakras > below the muladhara however that I think is known as > asuri sadhanas. > > Any sadhana that makes you offer animal sacrifice, > self torture, sexual acts > or any rajasic acts is known as asuri siddhanta and > although very very fast > gives you bad karma. Babaji is totally against this > hence I cannot delve > into this. > > Devi is divine and there isn't any pre requisite to > get her darshan, I was a > pitiful little *censored* and Devi took pitty on my > many attempts, I always > used to have ropes and chains next to me to tie her > up when she comes I > think that was the reason why she didn't showup the > first time. LOL > > I did ask Babaji and he mentioned that without doing > the utkilana rituals > and a Guru's grace one can never attain sadhana, I > already saw Shiva and > Vishnu as my gurus and Devi thus gave me this boon, > I haven't opened my > Kundalini if I did I would be doing tapas right now. > I am honoured that you can think so highly of me, > but to tell you the truth > all my attempts were pathetic. I never liked tantra > and am still not really > fond of it since I don't understand it much, there > isn't any rajasic or > tamasic ritual that I do; the only things partially > tamasic is the bali of > coconut, lime and white vinegar instead of alcohol. > But like I said Asuri > Sadhana isn't all that good however there are > exceptions like for instance > the worship of Dakini, she is rajasic in nature but > that doesn't mean you go > around slaughtering animals and offering your blood. > > I am dead against Animal Sacrifice and the only > rajasic offerings that I can > cite is one's own blood and rum but even then I > personally don't do that. > Let me put it this way the way one worships Lord > Vishnu should be the way > one worships all Gods and Goddesses and a purely > satvic way and mostly > mental. The only bali that Gods crave is of your > animal instincts and your > ahamkara. > > Chamundi is usually associated as a blood consuming > form of Durga, but she > is just the destroyer of your bad senses, Kali is > all consuming she burns > and consumes your bad karma. There is a esoteric > side to these rituals and > the higher you go the less physical rituals you > shall do, it is just a means > of focusing, a form of visualisation. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 pidaparthi sujatha garu..... namaste!! thanks for the interesting letter...it may be true that god does not ask for bali of the animals but interesting thing is the concept of bali is associated more with kali and other dieties only and also lord narasimha ... i dont know why! the bali of animals is not seen in casew of other dieties ... there must be reasons closely linked with anthropology and sociology about this . anyway we need to research more when this barbarous act started and most important is to stop these type of activities!!! sincerely yours shyam sunderkasturi ++++++++++++ ******* ++++++++++++++ ************* +++++++ Do you know about Visa Venkateswaran of chilkoor? DEar friend.... Me,my mother & my brother went to take darshan of shri Balaji at chilkur. the god of this place is famous as visa venkateswaran...it is believed that even those whose visa got rejected were able fly after having his darshan...the shrine is 23 Kms from Mehedipatnam (hyderabad) enroute to tandoor... An interesting thing is that there are no hundis(donation boxes) anywhere in the temple and the priests here wont take anything from devotees even if offered... We should not close our eyes while taking the darshan(seeing the idol of the god) in the temple.the god here is fond of pradakshinams (going around the temple in circles).the devotee should take 11 pradikshanams when he visits the temple for the first time asking sincerely him for the wish if u have any.............if your wish is fulfilled in due course of time...you need to visit the shrine again and offer 108 pradakshinams around god. this is a very old temple...the tiles in the temple dates back to 1920 A.D.there is also shiv temple in the campus .. three kilometers from this shrine there is also a beautiful swami narayan temple... there are buses from Mehedipatnam to the shrine why dont u visit the shrine once? sincerely yours... shyam sunder kasturi Shyam Sunder Kasturi F4 Jyothi Apts, Plot No 111, 8-3-111/K/1 Kalyan Nagar Phase III Hyderabad - 500 018 phone :0091 - 40 - 3840419 email : shyamsunderkasturi ---------------------- Bolt. Everything you need to speak your mind, hang out, hook up ... whatever. Tagbooks ™, Bolt Notes ™, message boards, personality quizzes, photos, free stuff and lots more! http://www.bolt.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2002 Report Share Posted December 12, 2002 Dear sir, i am very happy to hear from u regarding Chilkkor Balaji Temple. I have recently visited the Temple and did the pradakshinams. Guess He is reminding me to wait for the results. Thank u for the message. can i meet u next when i come to hyderabad. i keep coming every month once or twice for my work and to see Ma. regards sujatha --- darkmusk wrote: > pidaparthi sujatha garu..... > > namaste!! > > thanks for the interesting letter...it may be true > that > god does not ask for bali of the animals but > interesting > thing is the concept of bali is associated more with > kali > and other dieties only and also lord narasimha ... i > dont > know why! the bali of animals is not seen in casew > of other > dieties ... there must be reasons closely linked > with > anthropology and sociology about this . anyway we > need to > research more when this barbarous act started and > most > important is to stop these type of activities!!! > sincerely yours > shyam sunderkasturi > ++++++++++++ ******* ++++++++++++++ ************* > +++++++ > Do you know about Visa Venkateswaran of > chilkoor? > > DEar friend.... > Me,my mother & my brother went to take darshan of > shri > Balaji at chilkur. the god of this place is famous > as visa > venkateswaran...it is believed that even those whose > visa > got rejected were able fly after having his > darshan...the > shrine is 23 Kms from Mehedipatnam (hyderabad) > enroute to > tandoor... > An interesting thing is that there are no > hundis(donation > boxes) anywhere in the temple and the priests here > wont take > anything from devotees even if offered... > > We should not close our eyes while taking the > darshan(seeing > the idol > of > the god) in the temple.the god here is fond of > pradakshinams > (going > around > the temple in circles).the devotee should take 11 > pradikshanams when > he > visits the temple for the first time asking > sincerely him > for the wish if u have any.............if your wish > is > fulfilled in due course of time...you need to visit > the > shrine again and offer 108 pradakshinams around god. > > this is a very old temple...the tiles in the temple > dates > back to 1920 A.D.there is also shiv temple in the > campus .. > > three kilometers from this shrine there is also a > beautiful > swami narayan temple... there are buses from > Mehedipatnam to > the shrine > > > why dont u visit the shrine once? > > > sincerely yours... > shyam sunder kasturi > > > Shyam Sunder Kasturi > F4 Jyothi Apts, Plot No 111, 8-3-111/K/1 > Kalyan Nagar Phase III Hyderabad - 500 018 > phone :0091 - 40 - 3840419 > email : shyamsunderkasturi > > ---------------------- > Bolt. Everything you need to speak your mind, hang > out, > hook up ... whatever. Tagbooks ™, Bolt Notes ™, > message > boards, personality quizzes, photos, free stuff > and lots more! http://www.bolt.com > > ===== Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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