Shakti the sex energy? THE FOOLISH PERSPECTIVE

[Guest guest]

In all seriousness I thought that was an implication towards me; however that

did not offend me one bit. Ego is how Devi resides inside of us if you kill your

ego then devi dies hence you seise to exist. Doing sadhana transforms your ego

from the pathetic low life you are into the Godhead you chose as supreme.

 

I am still in the pathetic low life stage....

 

The thing that seriously offends me is how you talk about these great beings who

came to me; it is because they came to me that I give them all my respects. A

mention of these divinities by an unexpirenced person is just like listening to

a criticism of the Vedas by an illiterate it causes great offence, more then you

can imagine. I find it very difficult to control my temper right now, seeing how

you have speculated over my character which also I take great offence to.

 

Now you say mission accomplished; well if was to push me to the brink where I

would contemplate occult then you have succeed; however I dont see how this is

to your advantage. Dont take this as a threat but a warning talk about Mother

Hakini and you will have yourself an enemy. The trio are just as important to me

as you would call your own mother. If I start insulting her I bet you wont take

it lightly; see I dont even know her and yet when I talk about her you feel this

irritation (a normal person would) that is what has been amplified inside of me

when you mention of the holy trio and dont even comprehend what they constitute

of.

 

The mothers are an anigma, a greater one to their devotees any aspiration to

comprehend them is a basic insult to their mysterious nature. The divine mothers

are what forms your devi Lalita or another goddess. They are the adhara shaktis

and hence the true adya is just a synthesis of them.

 

They are the trio who you call upon and you practically become invincible,

through their grace does the Kundalini and only through their grace will it rise

(prana into the chakras). The divine mothers are no lowley spirit that you can

just toy with.

 

Dont you dare pull them to the level of a churel or dakin (different to mother

Dakini). This is the reason why I dont share the true knowledge of tantra since

fools once they read only a spec act as they are masters.

 

I am no master and unworthy of any of this (that is why i dont take any

compliments); the divine mothers and The great teachers took pity on me and

through their infinite knowledge lead me to a path I couldnt even imagine

existed.

 

I dont want anyone to even mention these divinites without any expirence with

them; why the HELL do you think I urge people to do Dakini sadhana so they too

can share the same love I felt when I invoked the Divine Devi.

 

I bet you; you have never invoked her nor will you ever in this birth if you

continue to argue about these things and place filth like that one the Divine.

They punish they arent occult dieities.

 

When you talk to buddhist masters even they shed tears when Devi Kurukulla is

mentioned the greatest Hakini. nectors arises through their eyes when mother

Tara is contemplated, they are the true trios. Tara, Kurukulla and Kali. Dakini,

Shakini and Hakini are none other, so how dare you even insinuate that I could

use these mothers in occult especially (even if I could) on the likes of you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Greetings

- Send your seasons greetings online this year!

 

 

[Guest guest]

kalika putra,

 

i am sorry , dear one! i have to speak up! i do like you for

your 'outspokenness' and admire you for the courage of your

convictions, but you do say things that you are not able

to 'substantiate' - for instance, you said 'feaces' forms part of

panca makara sadhana and anyone and everyone who knows about panca

makara sadhana knows that 'feaces' is not one of the five ms....

 

alos, when nora asked the question is 'devi a sexual energy' you

called it a foolish perspective... devi is the divine enegy including

the 'sexual' energy! what is foolish about it? the entire yoni tantra

is worshipping about this divine energy ... the creative and

procreative aspect of mahamaya!

 

then you mention the word" churel" very often in your posts....

 

guys, do you all know what 'churel' means in our hindi (indian)

language? churel means prostitute" - and a great saint like shri

ramakrishna paramahamsa saw the divine mother in a 'prostitute' when

she was brought before him to seduce him--- so much so, the

prostitute was so overwhelmed by this show of respect that she

immediately fell down at shri ramakrishna's feet and became his

devotee...

 

in yoni tantra also it is mentioned, one should not ridicule any

woman including prostitutes... further, in yoni tantra it is said you

should not attack any woman even with 'flowers' for they are all

worshippable...

 

also you mention DAKINI, RAKINI, HAKINI, KAKINI, LAKHINI, YAKINI

ETC.... all the time in your posts just like you take the name of all

the devis from sree lalita to tara devi!

 

but dear one, these deities that you mention dakini, rakini, hakini

etc are not outside of your body - they are the presiding deity of

all the chakras from muladhara to agna... just as sree lalita devi is

not some devi residing in the celestial realm - sree lalita devi is

right there in your anahata chakra sitting in the thousand petalled

lotus... SHE IS THE DIVINITY WITHIN as ompremji has pointed out to

rajeshweri in his post...

 

so all thois mantra, tantra , yantra are of use only if it helps you

seek the union with the inner 'goddess; within!

 

then even the 'kungika' mantra - you spell it one way and siva spells

it another way he calls it kunika and you call it kungika! in mantra

sadhana, 'uccharan' is very impoetant! you know klim refers to

krishna and krim refers to kali!

 

do not take me wrong; i do enjoy your posts! you do know a lot and it

is because of you i was able to know that tantriks can trnscend

duality by eating even their own 'crap' .... i knew that tantriks did

lot of unusual things but this one was a 'revelation'

 

as far as 'bad' mothers are concerned , they do exist ! just like

bad 'children' do exist,,, but it is a vicious circle bad mothers

bring forth bad kids and bad kids in turn make bad mothers

 

but dear one,

our divine mother is beyond all gunas- - she is gunatita!

 

adi shankaracharya was talking to the divine mother ! he was

referingto as the bad son... that was part of his humility...

 

if an earth mother could produce a great son like adi shankara then

she indded is worthy of all respect!

 

take care -

 

OUR SIVADANCER IS NORMALLY VERY CALM AND COOL AND EVEN I AM SURPRISED

HE WROTE LIKE THAT! THAT IS NOT HIS STYLE AND HE IS TRUE SADHAK WELL

VERSED IN ALL SCRIPTURES... ..

[Guest guest]

I fully agree with Yoga man. I have been reading Dakinic monk's posts. I agree

that some of his suggestions are useful. But as Yogaman says be cautious., Do

everything with a Guru's advise.

As for vsions and visitations it is possible; but we have to guard against

hallucinations as well because that too is possible. One person's technique

leading to a vision need not necessarily lead to a vision by another following

the same path. Each man has his specific path.

I would advise anyone to get a Guru What is said here should be taken by way of

information not for actual practice. Actual practice instructions should come

from a Guru.

Kochu

 

Yoga man <childofdevi wrote:Hey Siva!

 

Cool down! I think a lot of the perceived arrogance in

dakini_monk comes because he does not mince words when

he speaks out his mind(after all he only 16:-)). And

when in comes to babaji, visions of goddesses etc,

perhaps you may have a tough time believing it as they

are so few people who have this experience- i do know

of people who have similar experiences but they dont

have an internet connection!

 

I myself dont take anything for granted and only if I

am convinced that will I go for it, I am not in a

position to comment on most things but I will say this

much Kalika putra's instructions on japa/sadhana were

extremely useful and is probably the missing link in

most manuals on sadhana-some of this is original and I

have not seen it elsewhere. I believe that this can

come only from a person who has practiced a lot since

I myself have been doing rigorous japa sadhana for a

long time; most things I have been doing till then

were mostly a trial and error thing got from a

diversity of sources.

 

Visions of gods/goddessses are not that impossible as

it seems(though I have not had one yet)- there is a

good book called Mantra-tantra by LR Chawdri- this guy

was a retired engineer who was drawn into tantra-gives

a lot of sadhanas- but there were no practical

instructions on japa sadhana.

 

Once again I request all to give a patient hearing to

Kalika putra- as he most certainly gives some useful

tips in mantra sadhana(kriya, bhuta shuddhi,pranayama

etc), something useful to all. This is not to say that

members should not excercise caution when doing

sadhanas off the web- indeed only if coming from a

deep conviction should one proceed to do tantric

sadhanas, which can be dangerous sometimes.

 

yogaman

 

 

 

Message: 2

Mon, 23 Dec 2002 03:07:22 -0000

"sivadancer <sivadancer"

<sivadancer

Re: Shakti the sex energy? THE FOOLISH

PERSPECTIVE

 

Namaste dakinic_monk. Time for some ego destruction.

 

What is the point of you being here if you claim to

know the "true

depths" of philosophy and not want to impart it? I

don't believe you

know the "true depths" of Aghora philosophy. If I am

wrong, then prove

yourself.

 

Probably you'll say, "This is secret and I can't tell

you people." Any

fool can say they know some esoteric knowledge and not

tell because

it's "secret." There are no secrets anymore. If you

know something,

come out and help everyone out.

 

Probably next you'll say, "My Dakini, Rakini, Hakini,

etc. protectors

are gonna mess you up 'cause you challenged me." I

don't think so.

Don't even try anything with whatever powers you think

you might have.

You'll only hurt yourself.

 

Next you'll say, "Mahavatar Babaji this and Babaji

that...he's my

guru." This is quite a claim. You better be prepared

to back it up

with some proof or at least with some teachings that

will blow our

minds.

 

So far I've seen a lot of "I know all this and you

people don't.

Listen to me, I know everything." I've been waiting

for something of

use from you, but so far there has not been much I

could have learned

from any book or off the internet.

 

Don't claim to know something and then keep tight

lipped about it.

What's the point of being in a discussion group? I

think you're here

to get your ego stroked. Prove me wrong, fool.

 

AUM kAlyai namaH

 

, Kalika Putra

<dakinic_monk> wrote:

> ofcourse there is colleboration between shakta and

aghora as Shiva

and Shakti are inter related. I am not going to go

into the true

depths for the philosophy is something dear to me and

I dont want to

imp

 

 

 

 

Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.

http://mailplus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now