Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Respected knowledgable ones, pranaams, well friends , i (well nothing against nebody or nebodys thought process , well we are different individuals with different lineage),for one would not agreee to FAECUS being termed as one of the punch makaras , nno , its maans (meat) madira (alcohol) mudra (pulses)matsya (fish) & maithuna .& as such for sure can say , that FAECUS is not a prat of punchmakara at all. also, from what little i know , a true sadhak would never talk shakti sadhak would never talk ill about KAULA MARGA no matter whether its in PASHU OR VEER OR THEN THE DIVYA form of practises. every soul , i repeat every soul which walks on journey of spirituality , crosses all paths & then to finally be one with supreme , & if somebody today (or in this birth) is on divya level , then that does'nt mean he never had been thru the earlier stages , well , naw , but rather he/she must have completed all prior stages in previous births which are many many. anyways , despite being at much lower level , my friendly advise to all sadhaks (especially thise foolowing shakti or shaiva) should never ever talk ill of any path of a kaula , whether vamachar or dakshina & imo , one should never try to prove his/her marga superior to other. regards, JAI AMBEY MAHAKALI SHREE KAAL BHAIRAVAYA NAMAH, rajat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 My siddhi devis are the Dasha Mahavidyas and the Tantric path I follow is of a kaula sampradaya, when I was taught of the pancha makara I had to do the satvic version of it to appease the demi deities who protect the yantra of Mother Kali. Without their help Kali sadhana is never done. The pancha makara (or a version of it) includes faeces, some others incl. Elephant meat, human stuff like that it is offered in three mundas (preferably those of Brahmans). Like I said I did the satvic or divya version of this in three inspired coconuts, that was the only way I knew back then to call on dakini, varnini, hakini and kakini the attributes of Kali, Chinnamasta and Tara devi. I am not putting down anyone or anything. I don't have bias when I talk about two schools of tantra that is just plain wrong. I apologise if you or anyone else took any offence to this, but I am talking about stuff that I have done and stuff that I have seen which works. Sometimes Devi takes a filthy form (these forms I will not mention since Humans are not to worship them but pretas), and to appease these forms you must offer something filthy as well, like machindra tara devi or karana pishachini devi they all have their custom pancha makara. The pancha makara (the common form) is what you are referring to and I haven 't practiced that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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