Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 hi raji, you ask, "Please pardon me for my ignorance - is not "crap" a waste product out of the system. What is the need or purpose for a realised soul to accept the> re-entrace of waste product and demonstrate that he is beyond all dualities. " A good question and a legitimate one at that! please read the following passage - you may find the answer to your own question.. Aghoris pollute themselves by eating their own 'crap' and drinking their own 'urine' in order to worship! this is how they transcend dualities! The Aghoris Holiness cannot only be macho, but even 'crazy', god-possessed, as it is shown by the members of a rather obscure and small sect, the Aghoris. The Aghoris willingly transgress all ascetic (and Hindu) taboos, convinced as they are that by 'reversing all values' they will speed up enlightenment. While all sadhus are supposed to be vegetarian and teetotallers , Aghoris eat meat and drink alcohol. Even more horrid habits are attributed to Aghoris: they eat the putrid flesh of corpses;THEY EAT EXCREMENT AND DRINK URINE, even of a dog; they have ritual intercourse with menstruating prostitutes on the cremation-grounds, where they usually hang out; and they meditate while sitting on a corpse. It is questionable whether all this is regularly done, but it seems quite certain that at least occasionally, and then in a ritual context, as a kind of 'eucharist', these cannibalistic and other 'inhuman' acts are still taking place. Aghoris preferably live on cremationgrounds and surround themselves with artifacts of death, like human skulls out of which they drink and with which they perform magical rituals. Nonetheless, the Aghoris represent a tradition that is thousands of years old, and there have been times that the sect was quite numerous. ********************************************************************** saint Ram Nath is (was?) an aghori who practiced the extreme form of 'aghora' - He ate his own 'crap' and drank his own 'urine' ! ... if you are interested, Raji, you can see a documentary called SADHUS: INDIA'S HOLY MEN (PT. 3) LIVING WITH THE DEAD The three part mini-series which explores the selfless lives of the most controversial sadhus of Hindu India. This segment concentrate son Ram Nath, a member of the rare and extreme "aghori" sadhu sect, who ritually pollutes himself in order to worship. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ rOBERT svoboda's book on Aghoris AVAILABLE AT AMAZON.COM WHO ARE AGHORIS? "Ghora is darkness, the darkness of ignorance. Aghora means light, the absence of darkness. Under the Tree of Knowledge is an Aghori, a follower of the path of Aghora. He has gone beyond ignorance thanks to the Flame of Knowledge which billows from the funeral pyre. The funeral pyre is the ultimate reality, a continual reminder that everyone has to die. Knowledge of the ultimate reality of Death has taken the Aghori beyond the Eight Snares of Existence: lust, anger, greed, delusion, envy, shame, disgust and fear which bind all beings. The Aghori plays with a human skull, astonished by the uselessness of limited existence, knowing the whole world to be within him though he is not in the world. His spiritual practices have awakened within him the power of Kundalini, which takes the form of the goddess dancing on the funeral pyre: Smashan Tara. He is bewildered to think that all is within him, not external to him; that he sees it not with the physical eyes but with the sense of perception. The Flame of Knowledge is that which preserves life, the Eternal Flame, the Supreme Ego, the Motherhood of God which creates the whole Maya of the universe and thanks only to Whose grace the Aghori has become immortal." ********************************************************************** DEAR MEMBERS FEEL FREE TO ADD COMMENTS ! BTW, RAJI, DID YOU LIKE THE LINK WE POSTED ON 'SRI VIDYS' ? read the section on bhavanopanishad, a shakta treatise on sri vidya... it is facinating! love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Dear Adi, Thanks and the below clip was facinating to read. How strange when comes to religion. This shows one can realise god by any method. We go the other way round . Sometimes, we even go to other extreme by not eating onion and garlic. Sex before marriage or extra marital relationship is something not heard off or spoken.(aS THOUGH WE LIVE IN VICTORIAN TIMES.) After reading these articles I feel religion is ones way of life. your comment please. Which site are you referring when comes to Sri Vidya. I am new to this group. raji. > >Aghoris pollute themselves by eating their own 'crap' and drinking >their own 'urine' in order to worship! this is how they transcend >dualities! > >The Aghoris > >Holiness cannot only be macho, but even 'crazy', god-possessed, as it >is shown by the members of a rather obscure and small sect, the >Aghoris. > > >The Aghoris willingly transgress all ascetic (and Hindu) taboos, >convinced as they are that by 'reversing all values' they will speed >up enlightenment. While all sadhus are supposed to be vegetarian and >teetotallers , Aghoris eat meat and drink alcohol. > >Even more horrid habits are attributed to Aghoris: they eat the >putrid flesh of corpses;THEY EAT EXCREMENT AND DRINK URINE, even of >a dog; they have ritual intercourse with menstruating prostitutes on >the cremation-grounds, where they usually hang out; and they meditate >while sitting on a corpse. > >It is questionable whether all this is regularly done, but it seems >quite certain that at least occasionally, and then in a ritual >context, as a kind of 'eucharist', these cannibalistic and >other 'inhuman' acts are still taking place. > >Aghoris preferably live on cremationgrounds and surround themselves >with artifacts of death, like human skulls out of which they drink >and with which they perform magical rituals. > > >Nonetheless, the Aghoris represent a tradition that is thousands of >years old, and there have been times that the sect was quite numerous. > >********************************************************************** > >saint Ram Nath is (was?) an aghori who practiced the extreme form >of 'aghora' - He ate his own 'crap' and drank his own 'urine' ! > >.. >if you are interested, Raji, you can see a documentary called > > >SADHUS: INDIA'S HOLY MEN (PT. 3) LIVING WITH THE DEAD The three part >mini-series which explores the selfless lives of the most >controversial sadhus of Hindu India. This segment concentrate son Ram >Nath, a member of the rare and extreme "aghori" sadhu sect, who >ritually pollutes himself in order to worship. > >I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ rOBERT svoboda's book on Aghoris >AVAILABLE AT AMAZON.COM > >WHO ARE AGHORIS? > >"Ghora is darkness, the darkness of ignorance. Aghora means light, >the absence of darkness. Under the Tree of Knowledge is an Aghori, a >follower of the path of Aghora. He has gone beyond ignorance thanks >to the Flame of Knowledge which billows from the funeral pyre. The >funeral pyre is the ultimate reality, a continual reminder that >everyone has to die. Knowledge of the ultimate reality of Death has >taken the Aghori beyond the Eight Snares of Existence: lust, anger, >greed, delusion, envy, shame, disgust and fear which bind all beings. >The Aghori plays with a human skull, astonished by the uselessness of >limited existence, knowing the whole world to be within him though he >is not in the world. His spiritual practices have awakened within him >the power of Kundalini, which takes the form of the goddess dancing >on the funeral pyre: Smashan Tara. He is bewildered to think that all >is within him, not external to him; that he sees it not with the >physical eyes but with the sense of perception. The Flame of >Knowledge is that which preserves life, the Eternal Flame, the >Supreme Ego, the Motherhood of God which creates the whole Maya of >the universe and thanks only to Whose grace the Aghori has become >immortal." > >********************************************************************** >DEAR MEMBERS FEEL FREE TO ADD COMMENTS ! > >BTW, RAJI, DID YOU LIKE THE LINK WE POSTED ON 'SRI VIDYS' ? read the >section on bhavanopanishad, a shakta treatise on sri vidya... it is >facinating! > >love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=74\ 74&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2002 Report Share Posted December 21, 2002 VERY VERY NICE --- "adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16 wrote: > hi raji, > > you ask, > > "Please pardon me for my ignorance - is not "crap" > a waste product > out of the system. What is the need or purpose for > a realised soul > to accept the> re-entrace of waste product and > demonstrate that he > is beyond all dualities. " > > A good question and a legitimate one at that! > > please read the following passage - you may find the > answer to your > own question.. > > Aghoris pollute themselves by eating their own > 'crap' and drinking > their own 'urine' in order to worship! this is how > they transcend > dualities! > > The Aghoris > > Holiness cannot only be macho, but even 'crazy', > god-possessed, as it > is shown by the members of a rather obscure and > small sect, the > Aghoris. > > > The Aghoris willingly transgress all ascetic (and > Hindu) taboos, > convinced as they are that by 'reversing all values' > they will speed > up enlightenment. While all sadhus are supposed to > be vegetarian and > teetotallers , Aghoris eat meat and drink alcohol. > > Even more horrid habits are attributed to Aghoris: > they eat the > putrid flesh of corpses;THEY EAT EXCREMENT AND DRINK > URINE, even of > a dog; they have ritual intercourse with > menstruating prostitutes on > the cremation-grounds, where they usually hang out; > and they meditate > while sitting on a corpse. > > It is questionable whether all this is regularly > done, but it seems > quite certain that at least occasionally, and then > in a ritual > context, as a kind of 'eucharist', these > cannibalistic and > other 'inhuman' acts are still taking place. > > Aghoris preferably live on cremationgrounds and > surround themselves > with artifacts of death, like human skulls out of > which they drink > and with which they perform magical rituals. > > > Nonetheless, the Aghoris represent a tradition that > is thousands of > years old, and there have been times that the sect > was quite numerous. > > ********************************************************************** > > saint Ram Nath is (was?) an aghori who practiced the > extreme form > of 'aghora' - He ate his own 'crap' and drank his > own 'urine' ! > > .. > if you are interested, Raji, you can see a > documentary called > > > SADHUS: INDIA'S HOLY MEN (PT. 3) LIVING WITH THE > DEAD The three part > mini-series which explores the selfless lives of the > most > controversial sadhus of Hindu India. This segment > concentrate son Ram > Nath, a member of the rare and extreme "aghori" > sadhu sect, who > ritually pollutes himself in order to worship. > > I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ rOBERT svoboda's book > on Aghoris > AVAILABLE AT AMAZON.COM > > WHO ARE AGHORIS? > > "Ghora is darkness, the darkness of ignorance. > Aghora means light, > the absence of darkness. Under the Tree of Knowledge > is an Aghori, a > follower of the path of Aghora. He has gone beyond > ignorance thanks > to the Flame of Knowledge which billows from the > funeral pyre. The > funeral pyre is the ultimate reality, a continual > reminder that > everyone has to die. Knowledge of the ultimate > reality of Death has > taken the Aghori beyond the Eight Snares of > Existence: lust, anger, > greed, delusion, envy, shame, disgust and fear which > bind all beings. > The Aghori plays with a human skull, astonished by > the uselessness of > limited existence, knowing the whole world to be > within him though he > is not in the world. His spiritual practices have > awakened within him > the power of Kundalini, which takes the form of the > goddess dancing > on the funeral pyre: Smashan Tara. He is bewildered > to think that all > is within him, not external to him; that he sees it > not with the > physical eyes but with the sense of perception. The > Flame of > Knowledge is that which preserves life, the Eternal > Flame, the > Supreme Ego, the Motherhood of God which creates the > whole Maya of > the universe and thanks only to Whose grace the > Aghori has become > immortal." > > ********************************************************************** > DEAR MEMBERS FEEL FREE TO ADD COMMENTS ! > > BTW, RAJI, DID YOU LIKE THE LINK WE POSTED ON 'SRI > VIDYS' ? read the > section on bhavanopanishad, a shakta treatise on sri > vidya... it is > facinating! > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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