Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 Thank you Adi Shakthi16, but I think its time for us to put all these aside and move on. "when nora asked the question is 'devi a sexual energy' you called it a foolish perspective... devi is the divine enegy including the 'sexual' energy! what is foolish about it?" I think I could understand Kalika Putra concern and calls it a foolish perspective. He is not wrong if you look at his perspective. Most children from what I know, always think their parent especially their mothers as being asexual. Its very difficult to accept it when somebody says that your mother is sexual. The same reaction we got when in the previous group we featured lajjah Gauri as our goddess as the week. You too did voice your "reserveness" to our Devi Bhakta several times. To some it is like putting the naked picture of your mother up there for others to see. They find it offensive. Are they wrong? No I don't think so. They are justified to express their concern. We need to be sensitive in future, that is what I learn from the whole experience. "as far as 'bad' mothers are concerned , they do exist ! just like bad 'children' do exist, but it is a vicious circle bad mothers bring forth bad kids and bad kids in turn make bad mothers" Right as you are, Adi Shakthi16 but we need to break that vicious circle. Just like poverty and illiteracy, we need to break it only then we can advance, otherwise we are stuck forever. Things just don't happen out of the blue. A mother don't just wake up in the morning and suddenly have this urge to kill her children. It is a cumulative of whole event. We need to look at all these in a holistic way. Its all cause and effect. "OUR SIVADANCER IS NORMALLY VERY CALM AND COOL AND EVEN I AM SURPRISED HE WROTE LIKE THAT! THAT IS NOT HIS STYLE AND HE IS TRUE SADHAK WELL VERSED IN ALL SCRIPTURES... .. " Out greatest enemy is anger. I hope you have a happy holiday Adi Shakthi16. I see you still cant resist us eh! Now go on for your well deserve holiday in Florida. OM ParaShaktiye Namaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 dearest nora, you are right! we normally never worship the divine mother in the 'madhurya bhava!' but in tantra, ' maithuna' is one of the panca makars and is practiced as part of tantric sadhana ! but, the 'maithuna' is an esoteric concept and is not easily understood by laymen! they interpret it as normal sexual intercourse! it is above and beyond that! it is having sexual intercourse with the 'goddess' within! that is why in the west , tantra is associated with 'sex' ! but, as you know 'tantra' is about expanded consciousness and 'sex' is only a vehicle to transcend from the mundane to the sublime! yes, we should be sensitive to all views but i was the first one to support devi_bhakta when sa moderator of a hindu group criticized him for posting the icon of 'lajja gowri'' ! i even pointed out that the icon of 'lajja gowri' was not inveneted by devi_bhakta ; it existed before him and it will exist after him! ! in fact, we owe it to devi_bhakta that he opened our eyes to this side of devi_worship! Mother as creatrix- mother in a 'birthing' posture! our own mother is not 'asexual' - she could never be! if she was , how could and you i have been born! of course, we never think of our mother as being 'sexy' - that is not correct- the divine mother is full of all energies -including'sex' energy! in fact, the sex energy rests in the swadhistana chakra and the divine mother rests in all parts of our body! Tantra is like 'nursing' - just like in nursing you do not consider anything as impure or dirty - similarly in tantra, nothing is considered as ;impure or dirty! this includes urine, faeces, semen and menstrual blood! in fact, in sree lalita sahasaranama, there is reference to devi as 'shukla' which means 'semen; and if we read saundarya lahari or sree lalta sahasaranama, there is limb by limb description of devi's body! only thing, the description is not to be interpreted literally but metaphysically! the devi's two breats are 'ida' and ''pingala' - not just ordinary breasts! also, if you recall when you posted those long series on 'ritual transvetism' there were many people who objected to that but to me it was not anything 'objectionable' because shri ramakrishna himself worshipped the divine by dresssing up as a 'woman' and trying to experience the 'madhura bhava' of the gopis... you are right, sweetheart! i cannot resist 'shakti and her sadhana? how can i ? you make it so 'irresistable' smiles!!! YES, i am eagerly looking forward to my stay in florida - the 'sunshine' of my life is waiting for me - my little one ! keep up the good work! wishing you all a happy new year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 Nora what you say is the truth, finally someone understands why I am against this @#$!#!!!!!!! form of worship. Movies - What's on at your local cinema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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