Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 hello members , i dunno if this is the right grp. to ask , but can i ask you that why do ppl. say to meditate sitting on deer skin or tiger skin??? love ashish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 I dunno for sure. I assume it is to generate static electricity "lifecomesfromlife <lifecomesfromlife" <lifecomesfromlife wrote:hello members , i dunno if this is the right grp. to ask , but can i ask you that why do ppl. say to meditate sitting on deer skin or tiger skin??? love ashish Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 DEAR ASHISH, i am sorry it took me so long to answer this question but i wanted to make sure i have the right answer for you! you ask why do ppl. say to meditate sitting on deer skin or tiger skin??? WELL, DEAR ONE, IN SRIMAD bhagwat gita, shri krishna paramtma while instructing arjuna how to meditate says,,, " Having established his seat in a clean place, firm, neither too high nor too low, with cloth, skin (a tiger or deer skin) and kusha grass, one over the other; Seated thus, on that seat, making the mind one-pointed, restraining the activities of the mind and senses, let him practise Yoga for the purification of the Self" (11 & 12 - VI) "The Yogi, desirous of attaining mastery over Yoga, should make a seat for himself in a clean place, which is solitary and pure either by its very nature or made so by appropriate means. The seat should not be too high or too low. High seats are dangerous because by chance if the Yogi loses balance when his mind is in full concentration he may fall down from his seat. Therefore the seat should not be too high. If the seat is too low there is the danger of exposure to cold or disturbances from reptiles. The seat should consist of Kusha grass strewn on the ground. Kusha is a particular kind of grass which is considered to be disinfectant in its quality. On the kusha grass an antelope's skin should be kept. And above the antelope's skin should be spread a folded cloth. In short, the Yogi should sit on a wooden plank slightly raised from the ground and on which Kusha grass, deer skin and cloth are kept one above the other. The seat must be in a clean sot and it should be firm. Seated there in any comfortable posture, the yogi should practise yoga for the purification of mind by making the mind one-pointed and senses controlled." also, deer skin increases concentration agastya samhita says it has a quality of withholding ojas generating during sadhana from escaping to earth also it has to be the skin of a black spotted one! now, i would request ompremji or yogaji etc to explain 'ojas; to ashish and elaborate on this, please! hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 , "adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16>" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > now, i would request ompremji or yogaji etc to explain 'ojas; to > ashish and elaborate on this, please! > > hope this helps! So which is it Adi "SOHAM or HAMSA"? They are both 'kumbaka' mantras. Though I am not from Kerala I am going to take a stab at 'ojas'. Ojas is our vitality, it is the veritable 'fountain of youth'. It is ojas that is the fuel consummed by the gastrial fire of meditation and the creation and balance of ojas is the reason for a yogic lifestyle. It is the yogi's greatest treasure. It is created and maintain by diet(simple and digestible food) and and sexual contenance or better yet celibacy. Ojas is one reason that a yogi can life a long life. If a person lacks ojas and does intense meditation the fire will consume his or her body leaving it a shell. So this is a 'start' and will now defer to the keralites. f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 the esoteric reason for this is that in meditation you are trying to reach akasha tattwa (ether) which is the most refined and is associated with spirituality. sitting on the bare ground produces earth currents which tie you to the prithvi tattwa(earth) the very thing you are trying to avoid and the energy you generate from meditation just drains away into the earth the more practical reason is that it is more comfy to sit on a tiger mat padded by grass. this kusa grass has its own spiritual vibration, and i seem to recall that noteveryone is allowed to use the tiger mat yogaman , "lifecomesfromlife <lifecomesfromlife>" <lifecomesfromlife> wrote: > hello members , > i dunno if this is the right grp. to ask , > but can i ask you > that why do ppl. say to meditate sitting on deer skin or tiger skin??? > love > ashish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Namaste Frank, Yes truly ironic that we had to go in opposite directions to meet our spiritual mentors- my relationship with Gurudeva is very nominal, I studied with him for a while before deciding Saiva Siddhanta is not for me. You mentioned Kahhanad- I think this is where papa Ramdas was right? What is this the kumbaka mantra that you are talking about? as far as I aknow both of these have only rechaka and puraka associated with them, no kumbaka, though the end result is that it results in total kumbaka after prolonged practice- one can stop breathing and live life. OJAS is the force of brahmacharya, sublimating the ojas to the sahasrara is what makes the ordinary man, a superman. ojas truly comes from the prana that you breath in, to a lesser extent from food drink, etc BTW frank what was the connection between ojas and keralites(if anything most keralites will balk at ojas, having been under communist influence for long, lol) yogaman > > So which is it Adi "SOHAM or HAMSA"? They are both 'kumbaka' mantras. > > Though I am not from Kerala I am going to take a stab at 'ojas'. Ojas > is our vitality, it is the veritable 'fountain of youth'. It is ojas > that is the fuel consummed by the gastrial fire of meditation and the > creation and balance of ojas is the reason for a yogic lifestyle. It > is the yogi's greatest treasure. It is created and maintain by > diet(simple and digestible food) and and sexual contenance or better > yet celibacy. Ojas is one reason that a yogi can life a long life. If > a person lacks ojas and does intense meditation the fire will consume > his or her body leaving it a shell. > > So this is a 'start' and will now defer to the keralites. f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 , "childofdevi <childofdevi>" <childofdevi> wrote: > Namaste Frank, > > > You mentioned Kahhanad- I think this is where papa Ramdas was > right? I have stayed at Anand Ashram in Kanhangad truly a most wonderful place. It is permiated with bhakti. The people are so gracious. And Swamiji is quite accessible. It has been some years though. My connection to that area though is Nityananda whose Ashram is at the old fort near the railway station. It is very small. Nearby in the hills is Guruvana 'the jungle Ashram' where 'the story goes' Nityananda was found as a small child. > > What is this the kumbaka mantra that you are talking about? as far as > I aknow both of these have only rechaka and puraka associated with > them, no kumbaka, though the end result is that it results in total > kumbaka after prolonged practice- one can stop breathing and live > life. I have always thought that the Soham and hamsa mantras were spontaneously produced by kumbaka. I have never investigated the technical aspects. > > OJAS is the force of brahmacharya, sublimating the ojas to the > sahasrara is what makes the ordinary man, a superman. ojas truly > comes from the prana that you breath in, to a lesser extent from food > drink, etc Food nourishes the OJAS. I have been told that different foods such as 'badam or haldi doodh' also bindi are good for producing semen. Personally my life situation has changed dramatically in the past year and MAA has given me the 'gift of time'. As a result i do a lot more meditation and wake very early. I have never done pramayanna so it is by regulation of food that I keep the gastric fire hot. > > BTW frank what was the connection between ojas and keralites(if > anything most keralites will balk at ojas, having been under > communist influence for long, lol) > > yogaman > > I sometimes get the people in the group confused. You and Kochu are both from Kerala what about Omprem? What I am saying is I see great wisdom in all of your posts and so after 'taking my swipe' i will defer to a higher level of understanding. I am kinda 'a seat of the pants' yogi. thank you for taking the time to answer. f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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