Shaktism: Toward a Definition?-- Muktananda Statement.

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, "Frank Martin <sriprank>"

<sriprank> wrote:

> , "Satish <sadaashiva>"

> <sadaashiva> wrote:

> > ---

> > My coments1: Unbaked, incomplete learning!! Who is that who

said

> > that the upanishad is made by a brain? That only goes to show

that

> > he doesnt even know the fundamentals of hinduism.

> >

> > Comment 2: Only those ppl who reached a certain stage in

> > spirituality can do away without scriptures.Not you, not me. If

one

> > keeps following such advice they will perish in the field of

> > spirituality. I wish you will discover why. It is impossible to

write

> > in an elist everything from fundamentals.

> >

> > >

> > > So I threw the book away and began to meditate. This makes

> > > perfect sense. When the Self is within, why should we look for

> > > knowledge of it somewhere else? As long as we do not realize

> > > the Self within, we cannot find true peace. ...

> >

> > A better thing would be to abandon who ever said that.

>

>

> Dear Satish,

>

>

> These original'words' were spoken by Nityananda Swaimi a great

> Avadhoota originally from Kerala who later settled in Ganeshpuri in

> Thana District near Mumbai. The Avadhoot's experience the world as

> Chittishakti and have no need for the scriptures. Perhaps you do

> and there is nothing wrong with that but simply they don't and there

> is nothing wrong with that either. Below is a link to the

Nityananda

> website in khanagad in kerala. f

>

> http://www.swaminityanandbhagwan.com/

 

Thank You for informing. I thought they were from an ordinary

teacher. His words should not be taken literally. He is using those

words only to de-condition muktananda's mind. Those words are *only*

meant for muktananda and not for us.

It is right that an avadhoota doesnt require scriptures. He needs

them untill he becomes an avadhoota. For many of us becoming an

avadhoota may take a couple of births.

 

regards

[Guest guest]

, "Satish

<sadaashiva>" <sadaashiva> wrote:

> , "Frank Martin

<sriprank>"

> <sriprank> wrote:

> > Dear Satish,

> >

> >

> > These original'words' were spoken by Nityananda Swaimi a

great

> > Avadhoota originally from Kerala who later settled in

Ganeshpuri in

> > Thana District near Mumbai. The Avadhoot's experience the

world as

> > Chittishakti and have no need for the scriptures. Perhaps

you do

> > and there is nothing wrong with that but simply they don't and

there

> > is nothing wrong with that either. Below is a link to the

> Nityananda

> > website in khanagad in kerala. f

> >

> > http://www.swaminityanandbhagwan.com/

>

Those words are *only*

> meant for muktananda and not for us.

 

Can anyone recommend an Avadhoot text that would be good for

a Shakta to read? Can Shakta scriptures also support the

Avadhoot approach to the world as Chittishakti?

 

Bhagawan Nityananda commanded Swami Muktananda to bring

his message to the west. Muktananda wrote that it once was

tradition not to reveal sacred information to outsiders, but his

guru changed tradition by that command. And so, Muktananda

shared, and now Swami Chidvilasanda shares, the knowledge

and energy of Siddha enlightenment.

[Guest guest]

, "Mary Ann <maryann@m...>"

<maryann@m...> wrote:

> Can anyone recommend an Avadhoot text that would be good for

> a Shakta to read? Can Shakta scriptures also support the

> Avadhoot approach to the world as Chittishakti?

 

 

I am going 'out on a limb' here because I am a rather uneducated yogi.

I view the link between Shaktism and Avadoots through Dattatreya not

as an Avatar of Vishnu but as the Adi-Guru of the Natha and Avadhoot

Sects. This is in the context of how Datta is worshiped in Western India.

 

There are various tranlations of the Avadhoota Gita a text attributed

to Dattatreya on the web one actually by Ramkrishna mission.

My favorite is the tranlation done by Purohit Swami which is not

available on the web. This tranlation was done with the assistance of

the poet William Butler Yeats and was never published during his

(Purohit's)lifetime but is now available.

 

A excellent book to or at least a starting point for understanding

Datta is "Dattatreya, The Immortal Guru, Yogin, and Avatara" by

Antonio Rigopoulos published by SUNY.

 

Then there is Tripura Rahasya often quoted by Ramana Maharshi and

available through Rammana Ashram. f

[Guest guest]

> >

> Those words are *only*

> > meant for muktananda and not for us.

>

> Can anyone recommend an Avadhoot text that would be good for

> a Shakta to read? Can Shakta scriptures also support the

> Avadhoot approach to the world as Chittishakti?

>

> Bhagawan Nityananda commanded Swami Muktananda to bring

> his message to the west. Muktananda wrote that it once was

> tradition not to reveal sacred information to outsiders, but his

> guru changed tradition by that command. And so, Muktananda

> shared, and now Swami Chidvilasanda shares, the knowledge

> and energy of Siddha enlightenment.

 

Bhagavan Nityananda has no authority to change tradition.

 

Please see the smritis(hindu law texts) on how to change tradition

or how changes can be accepted in tradition. One great souls's good

intentions or words will not change tradition.

 

rgds