Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 I was just looking at the newest artworks posted at Exotic India, under the category of Tantric diagrams. Among them were several renditions of Tarot card imagery. If there is a link between Shaktism or Tantra in general, and the Tarot, I've never heard of it. Might any of our members have any ideas/information about this? BTW, here's the Exotic India link if you want to see for yourself: http://www.exoticindia.com/paintings/Tantra Thanks! DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 As far as I know the only use of cards (playing cards) by soothsayers in India. They use birds to pick cards and say the result. Maybe there is a link because it is believed that Romany are descendants of Shaiva missionaries from Tamil Nadu - and they are the best with Taror. I dunno Kochu "Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta" <devi_bhakta wrote:I was just looking at the newest artworks posted at Exotic India, under the category of Tantric diagrams. Among them were several renditions of Tarot card imagery. If there is a link between Shaktism or Tantra in general, and the Tarot, I've never heard of it. Might any of our members have any ideas/information about this? BTW, here's the Exotic India link if you want to see for yourself: http://www.exoticindia.com/paintings/Tantra Thanks! DB Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Might any members coming from other traditions be able to shed some light on this? , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > > As far as I know the only use of cards (playing cards) by soothsayers in India. They use birds to pick cards and say the result. > Maybe there is a link because it is believed that Romany are descendants of Shaiva missionaries from Tamil Nadu - and they are the best with Taror. I dunno > Kochu > "Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta>" <devi_bhakta> wrote:I was just looking at the newest artworks posted at Exotic India, > under the category of Tantric diagrams. Among them were several > renditions of Tarot card imagery. If there is a link between Shaktism > or Tantra in general, and the Tarot, I've never heard of it. Might > any of our members have any ideas/information about this? > > BTW, here's the Exotic India link if you want to see for yourself: > > http://www.exoticindia.com/paintings/Tantra > > Thanks! > > DB > > > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 >I was just looking at the newest artworks posted at Exotic India, >under the category of Tantric diagrams. Among them were several >renditions of Tarot card imagery. If there is a link between Shaktism >or Tantra in general, and the Tarot, I've never heard of it. Might >any of our members have any ideas/information about this? > >BTW, here's the Exotic India link if you want to see for yourself: > >http://www.exoticindia.com/paintings/Tantra > >Thanks! > >DB > Namaste DB, I don't have any information about a specific _historical_ link between Tantra and the Tarot. However, I have for some time been interested in the way the _content_ of Tarot relates to the vision of Kali. Here are some lines that came to me last year. Om Shantih Colin ************************************************** Kali and the Tarot To which of the Tarot cards does Kali correspond? Kali is mukti, the freedom of the fool. Kali is siddhi, the mastery of the adept. Vidya, the secret of the priestess, is Kali. Pushti, the abundance of the empress, is Kali. Prabhava, the authority of the emperor, is Kali. Kripa, the grace of the guru, is Kali. Raga, the passion of the lovers, is Kali. Kali is jnana, the sight that guides the chariot, and bhakti, the yearning that draws it forward. Durga, the maiden whom the lion serves, is Kali. Tapas, the patient resolve of the hermit, is Kali. Samsara, the wheel of life, is Kali. Kali is dharma, the balance and sword of law. Pasha, the rope that binds the sacrifice, is Kali. Khadga, the scythe of death, is Kali. Kali is bhoga pouring into yoga, pleasure consecrated by discipline. Kama, the desire of the demon, is Kali. Kali is srishti and vinasha, the building and the shattering. Tara, the star girl who inspires the earth, is Kali. Pushpa, the blood of the moon, is Kali. Virya, the boldness of the sun child, is Kali. Kali is Kalaratri, the night of destiny. Kali is Prakriti, the anima mundi, the soul of the world. (first published in Ferment, April 2002. Copyright C. Robinson 02) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 A nice member of this group gave me a whole collection of Tarot cards as a gift in exchange for the Book Devi Mahatmaya and CD of Devis. I still dont know what to do with the Tarot Cards. I read it couple of time and still dont understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Greetings Nora, Im not aware what kind of tarot cards ur holding on to anyway just check out this site to know more about it!. http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/ "Nora <ashwini_puralasamy" <ashwini_puralasamy wrote:A nice member of this group gave me a whole collection of Tarot cards as a gift in exchange for the Book Devi Mahatmaya and CD of Devis. I still dont know what to do with the Tarot Cards. I read it couple of time and still dont understand. Travel - Valentine surprise deals. Book now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Namaste, In Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) there is the idea of the "Tree of Life" which is their explanation of creation. The Tree of Life is similar to the Hindu conception of the tattvas, but instead of 25 or 36 tattvas, there are only ten. In Kabbalah terminology they are called "sephiroth." The ten sephiroth are all interconnected and represent various elements, states of mind, numbers, planes of consciousness, etc. In the Tarot deck, the major arcana cards (i.e. The Fool, The Magician, the High Priestess, etc.) represent the CONNECTIONS between the sephiroth. The cards are used as meditative aids to "pathwalk" from sephiroth to sephiroth and so effect magickal workings or changes in consciousness. The only path I can remember is "The High Priestess." She is like the express elevator from the lowest earth plane straight up to the Divine. AUM , colinr@z... wrote: > >I was just looking at the newest artworks posted at Exotic India, > >under the category of Tantric diagrams. Among them were several > >renditions of Tarot card imagery. If there is a link between Shaktism > >or Tantra in general, and the Tarot, I've never heard of it. Might > >any of our members have any ideas/information about this? > > > >BTW, here's the Exotic India link if you want to see for yourself: > > > >http://www.exoticindia.com/paintings/Tantra > > > >Thanks! > > > >DB > > > > Namaste DB, > > I don't have any information about a specific _historical_ link between > Tantra and the Tarot. However, I have for some time been interested in the > way the _content_ of Tarot relates to the vision of Kali. > > Here are some lines that came to me last year. > > Om Shantih > Colin > > ************************************************** > > Kali and the > Tarot > > To which of the Tarot cards does Kali correspond? > > Kali is mukti, the freedom of the fool. > Kali is siddhi, the mastery of the adept. > > Vidya, the secret of the priestess, is Kali. > Pushti, the abundance of the empress, is Kali. > Prabhava, the authority of the emperor, is Kali. > Kripa, the grace of the guru, is Kali. > Raga, the passion of the lovers, is Kali. > > Kali is jnana, the sight that guides the chariot, and bhakti, the yearning > that draws it forward. > Durga, the maiden whom the lion serves, is Kali. > Tapas, the patient resolve of the hermit, is Kali. > Samsara, the wheel of life, is Kali. > Kali is dharma, the balance and sword of law. > > Pasha, the rope that binds the sacrifice, is Kali. > Khadga, the scythe of death, is Kali. > Kali is bhoga pouring into yoga, pleasure consecrated by discipline. > Kama, the desire of the demon, is Kali. > > Kali is srishti and vinasha, the building and the shattering. > > Tara, the star girl who inspires the earth, is Kali. > Pushpa, the blood of the moon, is Kali. > Virya, the boldness of the sun child, is Kali. > > Kali is Kalaratri, the night of destiny. > Kali is Prakriti, the anima mundi, the soul of the world. > > (first published in Ferment, April 2002. Copyright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 , "Nora <ashwini_puralasamy>" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > A nice member of this group gave me a whole collection of Tarot cards > as a gift in exchange for the Book Devi Mahatmaya and CD of Devis. I > still dont know what to do with the Tarot Cards. I read it couple of > time and still dont understand. The tarot is a set of archetypes originating (it is believed) in ancient Egypt. As an individual somewhat versed in the tarot I would be willing to try to answer any questions you had in regards to this form of divination. Yours Stilano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 , "stilano <STILANO@Y...>" > > The tarot is a set of archetypes originating (it is believed) in > ancient Egypt. As an individual somewhat versed in the tarot I would > be willing to try to answer any questions you had in regards to this > form of divination. Actually, the only reason the tarot used to be believed to come from Egypt was because it was believed that the Gypsies came from Egypt (hence the name). However, current historical theory would indicate that the Gypsies actually came from India. Thus, India is also the likely place of origin of the Tarot. Aditya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 , "Adityanath <aleph@e...>" <aleph@e...> wrote: > , "stilano <STILANO@Y...>" > > > > Actually, the only reason the tarot used to be believed to come from > Egypt was because it was believed that the Gypsies came from Egypt > (hence the name). However, current historical theory would indicate > that the Gypsies actually came from India. Thus, India is also the > likely place of origin of the Tarot. > > Aditya I never commented on this thread because i know nothing of tarot. I have known some Gypsies and have noted many similarities in customs and language to people from India. Many years ago an Indian man told me that after a great war many men were killed and tribes of women migrated eastward. This man was not a scholar but merely relating an oral tradition that had been passed down to him. f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 Thanks for the information. I'd be glad to receive some basic information about the Tarot. Best wishes, John Wallen. "Adityanath <aleph" <aleph wrote:--- In , "stilano <STILANO@Y...>" > > The tarot is a set of archetypes originating (it is believed) in > ancient Egypt. As an individual somewhat versed in the tarot I would > be willing to try to answer any questions you had in regards to this > form of divination. Actually, the only reason the tarot used to be believed to come from Egypt was because it was believed that the Gypsies came from Egypt (hence the name). However, current historical theory would indicate that the Gypsies actually came from India. Thus, India is also the likely place of origin of the Tarot. Aditya John Wallen. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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