Growth into Grace - Omprem was A prattling

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OM Ralf

 

It seems to me that you are taking an entirely too rational

approach to spiritual development.

 

Here is a comment from Jacob Boehme, 17th century German

Lutheran mystic, in his 'Of the Supersensual Life':

 

"Knowing the Mind of God

 

The Disciple said to his Master: How may I come to the

super-sensual life, that I may see God and hear Him speak?

 

His Master said: When thou canst throw thyself but for a moment

into that where no creature dwelleth, then thou hearest what

God speaketh.

 

Disciple: Is that near at hand or far off?

 

Master: It is in thee. And if thou canst for a while but cease from

all thy thinking and willing, then thou shalt hear the speakable

words of God.

 

Disciple: How can I hear him speak, when I stand still from

thinking and willing.

 

Master: When thou standest still from the thinking of self, and

the willing of self; "When both thy intellect and will are quiet, and

passive to the impressions of the Eternal Word and Spirit; And

when thy soul is winged up, and above that which is temporal,

the outward senses, and the imagination being locked up by

holy abstraction," then the Eternal hearing, seeing, and

speaking, will be revealed in thee; and so God "heareth and

seeth through thee," being now the organ of his spirit: and so

God speaketh in thee, and whispereth to thy spirit, and thy spirit

heareth his voice.

 

Blessed art thou therefore if that thou canst stand still

from self-thinking and self- willing, and canst stop the wheel of

imagination and senses... Since it is naught indeed but thine

own hearing and willing that do wonder thee, so that thou dost

not see and hear God"

 

 

You asked, "Why do you think these work to invite Grace into our

lives? Is it a 'reward' system of sorts from deity, or a physical

change that we effect in ourselves?"

 

It is not a reward system, it is an attunement process that

involves changes in the physical body, the prana body, the

mental body, and the intellect body. Sadhana is done to produce

these changes and as the changes occur, kundalini can form

and move up through the chakras revealing ever more subtle

spiritual information and awareness until at last the disciple's

consciousness becomes Cosmic Consciousness and the

disciple identifies with no one thing and with everything.

 

Om Namah Sivaya

 

Omprem

 

 

, Ralf <ralf@F...>

wrote:

> Hi Omprem, you wrote:

>

> > You asked, "I would like to ask you, how does one invite the

> > Grace of God or Guru into their lives?"

> >

> > One does that through living a life of serenity, contentment,

love,

> > detachment, discrimination and openness; through a

rigrous

> > and disciplined meditation practice; and through a rigourous

> > application of the yamas and niyamas in thought, word and

deed

> > every second of life.

>

> I'd like to learn more about these, if you are happy to teach?

> Any or all questions you answer would be great.

>

> What do you mean by a life of serenity? Conscious calming?

>

> How do you actively live a life of contentment?

>

> Is the concept of detachment in relation to all aspects of

> life? Are you attached to your deities?

>

> What would you recommend as a meditation practice? If you

> feel comfortable sharing, how and how often do you meditate?

>

> The restraints and observances are fairly well described

> in other literature, but do you have other comments?

>

> Why do you think these work to invite Grace into our lives?

> Is it a 'reward' system of sorts from deity, or a physical

> change that we effect in ourselves?

>

> Namaste,

>

> Ralf