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Hello Everyone

 

Thank you for the invitation to join

your group. I have not yet posted

anything but I have been reading all

of your posts with interest for some

time now.

 

I just wanted to comment on your post

Sandeep, about there being no chaos

except for that which the mind creates.

 

Chaos means "disorder". The mind "orders".

That is what the mind does! Just as the

eye sees, or the nose smells, the mind

finds order in a universe which has no

order, or at least no order which our

mind could possibly discern.

 

Granted, sometimes the mind orders in a

"chaotic" fashion, but ultimately it is

searching for meaning. It is trying to

make sense of that which makes no sense.

 

With love and best wishes,

Silvia

 

 

 

 

 

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Hiya Silvia,

 

Welcome.:-)

 

Some two cents for your consideration........

 

-

"Silvia Winowski" <winowski

<>

Friday, March 07, 2003 12:17 PM

Re:Chaos

 

> Hello Everyone

>

> Thank you for the invitation to join your group. I have not yet posted

> anything but I have been reading all of your posts with interest for some

> time now.

>

> I just wanted to comment on your post Sandeep, about there being no chaos

> except for that which the mind creates.

>

> Chaos means "disorder".

 

Does it?

 

Out of chaos are born stars.

 

What is seen as chaos, ............is it just not an inability in the

moment, to see the perfection of that moment?

 

 

> The mind "orders".

 

The mind is about the known.

And thus can only try to fit the moment into the box of known.

 

 

> That is what the mind does! Just as the eye sees, or the nose smells, the

mind

> finds order in a universe which has no order, or at least no order which

our

> mind could possibly discern.

 

 

Yes, the unfolding Universe is quite unconcerned with the discerning ability

of the mind.

 

 

>

> Granted, sometimes the mind orders in a "chaotic" fashion, but ultimately

it is searching for meaning. It is trying to make >sense of that which

makes no sense.

 

No doubt.

 

And that is why the mind can never apperceive.

 

Which does not suggest that mindlessness can apperceive either.

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Hiya Silvia,

 

Offer for your consideration........

 

The mind cannot know what is beyond the mind, but the mind is known by what

is beyond it.

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OM Blessed Self

 

"The mind cannot know what is beyond the mind..."

 

Yes, and that is why beyond the Manomaya Kosha, we have the

Vijnanamaya Kosha and the Anandamaya Kosha, for it is these

vehicles that lead us to Satchidananda, That which the mind

cannot give.

 

"... but the mind is known by what is beyond it." A

 

As above, the right inquiry of the Vijnanamaya Kosha leads to

experience as the Anandamaya Kosha and beyond.

 

OM Namah Sivaya

 

Omprem

 

 

 

 

, "Sandeep

Chatterjee" <sandeepc@b...> wrote:

> Hiya Silvia,

>

> Offer for your consideration........

>

> The mind cannot know what is beyond the mind, but the mind

is known by what

> is beyond it.

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Hi Chuck,

 

 

 

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"Rev. Chuck Vella" <apollonianking

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Monday, March 10, 2003 09:31 PM

Re: Re:Chaos

 

>

>

>

> The mind cannot know what is beyond the mind, but the mind is known by what

> is beyond it.

>

>

>

> Greeting and hello all. Why can the mind not know what is beyond itself,

like the eye which sees the flower in the garden?

 

 

 

The eye can see the flower in the garden.

 

But the eye can never see itself, except as a reflection.

 

What is the mind?

 

A notion, inferred by the mnemonic impressions of experiences.

 

It cannot go beyond this collation of experiences.

 

 

 

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The mind cannot know what is beyond the mind, but the mind is known by what

is beyond it.

 

 

 

Greeting and hello all. Why can the mind not know what is beyond itself, like

the eye which sees the flower in the garden?

 

Rev Chuck

The Apollonian King

 

 

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