Guest guest Posted March 9, 2003 Report Share Posted March 9, 2003 Cyborg- Cybernetic Organism. Piece of Science Fiction? Professor of Cybernetics at the University of Reading, UK, Kevin Warwick, has become the world's first cyborg, in March last year, by having a miniature computer surgically implanted into the main nerve canal of his left arm. " I had a micro-electrode array conected into my nervous system.With this in place, we linked my nervous system, by radio, to a computer and thence on to the Internet. One of the objectives is to help people with spinal injuries.To find out if we can use technology to bring back movements and feelings to areas in their nervous system.......to develop alternative sense to the blind.", says Kevin Warwick. As a cyborg, Kevin Warwick went to New York and via the Net, his brain signals were used to operate a robot hand in the UK, 4000 miles away. A 4,000 mile long nervous system. "It felt powerful, to switch on lights, sound alarms, switch on the heating, all by just think about it, sitting 4,000 miles away. One of my most exciting moments was when my extra (ultrasonic) sense worked very successfully. So with a blindfold on, I was able to detect objects with my new sixth sense. It was fantastic that having a sixth sense was no longer science fiction but has become science" says Kevin Warwick, in an interview. Cyborgs, as per Kevin, should, before long, be able to think in multimple dimensions, as compared to the 3 which currently humans think in, sense the world in multiple of ways (humans have only 5 senses) and would have superb memory abilities. Becoming cyborgs would appear to be the most natural, yet technical form of evolution. Some implications of "cyborgism" ........... -Communications, i.e telepathy. Today we communicate with the Net as the medium, through computers.. When our nervous systems get linked via Net, we can dispense with the computer and real-time communication would be possible. Would that be the end of relationships? If you knew exactly what your spouse was thinking (of you), could a relationship continue? -Education/expertise The brain/nervous system linked to the Net, download whatever information required directly into the brain and hey presto become an "expert", aka, Keanu Reeves in "The Matrix". -Death The only certainity of Life appears to be death. Inevitable, certain. What dies? Is it the biological body-mind complex, which dies? Spiritualists have been affirming for aeons, that the body-mind complex is simply a vehicle, for our real self, -Consciousness. You would not think twice of hopping of a train and into a bus, so why a particular attachment to a collection of nerves and tissues? What of Consciousness itself? Won't it die, with the death of the brain? Ray Kurzweil in "The Age of Spiritual Machines"....... postulates a future in which we will eventually scan our brain to map the locations, interconnections, and contents of the somas, axons, dentrites, pre-synaptic vesicles, and other neural components. The entire organisation will then be recreated on a neural computer of sufficient capacity, to include the contents of memory. Says Ray "In the not too distant future, people will be able to port their entire mind file to the new thinking technology. No doubt there will be a nostalgia for our humble carbon-based roots, but there is a nostalgia for vinyl records also. Ultimately we did copy most of that analog music to the more flexible and capable world of transferable digital information" Will that be the end of mortality, through this brain-porting technology? Up until now, our mortality was tied to the longetivity of our hardware. When the hardware crashed, that was it. As we cross the divide to instantiate ourselves into our computational technology, our identity will be based on our evolving mind file. We will then become software, not hardware. Our immortality will be a matter of being sufficiently careful to make frequent back-ups.<LOL> Now fuse two concepts. Think of an artificial body, which is perennially renewed and a mind that can be downloaded onto a chip. Whenever you get tired of your present body, you simply arrange to have the chip transplanted into another one. The Gita, spoke of the soul changing bodies as one changes garments. This is the 21st century version of transmigration. All of this will inevitably throw up questions -Will Earth be able to cope with enhanced human longetivity? Or is it time to step up galactic exploration, for more resources? -Which other certainities will die with death and what new beginnings will be born? -Will any of us, ever retire? Would you like to spend eternity with the same spouse/partner?(Groan) -If the driving force for reproduction is the gene's need to perpetuate itself, would we want any children, if we were assured of immortality? -What will happen to the family? -With no hell to fear, no Heaven to die for, will Religion have any meaning? -Is the death of Death, all that attractive? For is not death the mother of beauty, the beauty of something being heightened because we know it is transient. If everything was forever, would it not be boring? -Or has Kevin Kelly got it right when he sloganed " We are as gods and we might as well, get good at it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 OM Sandeep Cyborgs may be interesting from a science point of view, but to a spiritual adept cyborgs are as a Ford Model T is to a space probe. Adepts by accessing the Akash can already initiate events at great distances, use telepathy, levitate, teleport, be in more than one place at a time, know the entire thought of an individual (and view it with compassion and detachment), acquire any knowledge desired, create whatever food they choose to, indeed, create anything that they choose to, and more. And all without being reliant on a technology that is subject to flaws, obselescence and government control (unless, of course, you would enjoy be programmed, even more completely than you already are, as a useful unit of society. As for death, it is only the physical body that dies, everything else mind, intellect, prana, consciousness, soul, etc continues. Death is not to be feared because we are here to learn certain lessons which, once learned, mean that the current human life is no longer required at the moment. So the purpose of eternal life under the conditions that you propose would be what? It seems to me that such a life might be the hell that you claim will no longer exist. Brain-mapping is a waste of time because consciousness is also present at the cellular level and operates not on a biochemical/electrochemical basis of neuronal function level but on an optical level involving an intercellular system of microtubules. Let's leave reincarnation to Brahman and get on with learning the lessons that we are here to learn. OM Namah Sivaya Omprem , Sandeep Chatterjee <sandeepc@b...> wrote: > > > Cyborg- Cybernetic Organism. > > Piece of Science Fiction? > > Professor of Cybernetics at the University of Reading, UK, Kevin Warwick, has become the world's first cyborg, in March last year, by having a miniature computer surgically implanted into the main nerve canal of his left arm. > > " I had a micro-electrode array conected into my nervous system.With this in place, we linked my nervous system, by radio, to a computer and thence on to the Internet. > One of the objectives is to help people with spinal injuries.To find out if we can use technology to bring back movements and feelings to areas in their nervous system.......to develop alternative sense to the blind.", says Kevin Warwick. > > > As a cyborg, Kevin Warwick went to New York and via the Net, his brain signals were used to operate a robot hand in the UK, 4000 miles away. > > A 4,000 mile long nervous system. > > "It felt powerful, to switch on lights, sound alarms, switch on the heating, all by just think about it, sitting 4,000 miles away. > One of my most exciting moments was when my extra (ultrasonic) sense worked very successfully. > So with a blindfold on, I was able to detect objects with my new sixth sense. > It was fantastic that having a sixth sense was no longer science fiction but has become science" says Kevin Warwick, in an interview. > > Cyborgs, as per Kevin, should, before long, be able to think in multimple dimensions, as compared to the 3 which currently humans think in, sense the world in multiple of ways (humans have only 5 senses) and would have superb memory abilities. > > Becoming cyborgs would appear to be the most natural, yet technical form of evolution. > > > Some implications of "cyborgism" ........... > > > -Communications, i.e telepathy. > > Today we communicate with the Net as the medium, through computers.. When our nervous systems get linked via Net, we can dispense with the computer and real-time communication would be possible. > > Would that be the end of relationships? > > If you knew exactly what your spouse was thinking (of you), could a relationship continue? > > -Education/expertise > The brain/nervous system linked to the Net, download whatever information required directly into the brain and hey presto become an "expert", aka, Keanu Reeves in "The Matrix". > > -Death > > The only certainity of Life appears to be death. > Inevitable, certain. > > What dies? > > Is it the biological body-mind complex, which dies? > > Spiritualists have been affirming for aeons, that the body-mind complex is simply a vehicle, for our real self, -Consciousness. > > You would not think twice of hopping of a train and into a bus, so why a particular attachment to a collection of nerves and tissues? > > What of Consciousness itself? > > Won't it die, with the death of the brain? > > Ray Kurzweil in "The Age of Spiritual Machines"....... postulates a future in which we will eventually scan our brain to map the locations, interconnections, and contents of the somas, axons, dentrites, pre-synaptic vesicles, and other neural components. > > The entire organisation will then be recreated on a neural computer of sufficient capacity, to include the contents of memory. > > Says Ray "In the not too distant future, people will be able to port their entire mind file to the new thinking technology. > > No doubt there will be a nostalgia for our humble carbon-based roots, but there is a nostalgia for vinyl records also. > Ultimately we did copy most of that analog music to the more flexible and capable world of transferable digital information" > > > > Will that be the end of mortality, through this brain-porting technology? > > Up until now, our mortality was tied to the longetivity of our hardware. > > When the hardware crashed, that was it. > > As we cross the divide to instantiate ourselves into our computational technology, our identity will be based on our evolving mind file. > > We will then become software, not hardware. > > Our immortality will be a matter of being sufficiently careful to make frequent back-ups.<LOL> > > Now fuse two concepts. > > Think of an artificial body, which is perennially renewed and a mind that can be downloaded onto a chip. > > Whenever you get tired of your present body, you simply arrange to have the chip transplanted into another one. > > The Gita, spoke of the soul changing bodies as one changes garments. > > This is the 21st century version of transmigration. > > All of this will inevitably throw up questions > > -Will Earth be able to cope with enhanced human longetivity? Or is it time to step up galactic exploration, for more resources? > > -Which other certainities will die with death and what new beginnings will be born? > > -Will any of us, ever retire? > Would you like to spend eternity with the same spouse/partner?(Groan) > > -If the driving force for reproduction is the gene's need to perpetuate itself, would we want any children, if we were assured of immortality? > > -What will happen to the family? > > -With no hell to fear, no Heaven to die for, will Religion have any meaning? > > -Is the death of Death, all that attractive? For is not death the mother of beauty, the beauty of something being heightened because we know it is transient. > If everything was forever, would it not be boring? > > -Or has Kevin Kelly got it right when he sloganed " We are as gods and we might as well, get good at it." > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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