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Nila Saraswati Tara : The Devi Who Guides Through Troubles

 

O Mother, Devi Nilasaraswati Tara

Refuge with Thee I crave.

Giver of prosperity and wealth art Thou

To those who worship Thee.

Standing on Siva,

Thy right foot upon His breast and left upon His thigh

Ever art Thou, with smiling lotus-like face.

Thy three eyes are, as it were, full-blown lotuses.

In Thy hands, Thou holdest a knife, a skull, a lotus, and a sword.

 

Thou art the presiding Devi of speech.

Thou art the creeper which grants all desires.

Thou art the giver of all siddi,

And the power to write both verse and prose.

Three are Thine eyes, as it were blue lotuses.

Ocean of Kindness and compassion art Thou.

I pray to Thee of Thy mercy shower upon me the nectar of prosperity.

 

O Sharbha, I pray Thee remove my fears,

Proud Lady, brilliant are Thy garments,

Bright with coiling serpents,

Thou are clad in tiger skin,

Thy waist is adorned with tiny tinkling bells.

Thou holdest the heads of two demons

Drippling with blood, just severed by the sword.

Thy waist is girdles with heads of demons,

As it were with a garland.

Thus art Thou beautiful,

O formidable One.

 

O Devi Tara, attained with difficulty,

I take refuge with Thee.

Thou art beautiful with form both amorous and charmful.

Thou art Bindu and the half-moon.

Whose substance is Hrim and Phat

Thou art mantra and the shelter of all.

Thy forms are threefold –

Gross, Subtle, and Supreme.

Thou art beyond the reach of Veda.

 

By the service of Thy lotus feet,

Men of good deed attain sayujya liberation.

O Paramesvari Thou art the Spouse of Him

Who is Brahman, Visn and the three-eyed One.

O Mother! He who neglects to serve Thy lotus feet,

But serves instead the Devas, Indra and others,

Who are themselves pluged in the ocean of samsara.

Is indeed and most truly ignorant.

 

O Mother! Those Devas who receive on their crowns

The polent which comes from Thy lotus-like feet.

Are able to keep their promise of conquest,

And to gain victory over their enemies in battle –

Such, without a doubt, are sheltered in Thy lap.

But their enemies who send forth the defiant challenge.

"I am a Deva, and none is equal to me in the whole world"

Perish and meet such death as befits them.

 

Bhuta, Preta, Pisacha, Raksasa,

Daitya, foremost of Danava, Yaksa, Lords of Naga.

Wrathful Dakini, great birds, tigers and other dreadful creatures

Forthwith take flight at but the remembrance of Thy name,

And are powerless to do aught of evil.

 

Who serves Thy lotus feet, to him siddhi is given.

He surpasses the Lord of Speech.

And obtains the beauty of Kama,

He can charm and paralyze multitudes of elephants upon the field of

battle,

And has power to stay the flow of water.

The Siddha and prosperity are under his control.

 

Phalasloka

Whoever, being pure and self-controlled,

Reads this eight-versed hymns to Tara,

At morn, at noon, at evening,

To him is given

The power to write beautifully in prose or verse,

Knowledge in all Sastra,

Imperishable fortune,

The Enjoyment of whatsoever he may desire,

Fame, beauty, and wealth,

The love of all men,

And at the end liberation.

>From Nila Tantra

Arthur Avalon

 

 

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Kuan Yin, Goddess of Compassion

 

 

 

I made the vow

and kept my word

I reached enlightenment

but rather than pass over

to the state of eternal bliss

I retain human form

till all beings attain enlightenment

Keeping human form

enabled me to know more deeply

the pain others experience

Because of my deep feelings

because of my understanding

of misery and suffering

because of my decision

I am called The Compassionate One

She Whose Name Alleviates All Suffering

But wouldn't you prefer to wait

feeling what others feel

suffering what others suffer

knowing their pain as your own

wait till the end of all suffering and pain

till all beings attain enlightenment?

For me there was no other choice

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Kuan Yin is also sometimes known as Guanyin and in Japan she is

known as Kwannon. She is also known as "the one who hears

prayers/sounds/weeping". She is also protective of women and

children.

 

Her popularity is enhanced by a Chinese legend, which identifies her

as an indigenous princess called Miao Shan. She was the third

daughter of a King and suffered terrible punishments after refusing

to marry anyone but an ordinary Physician.

 

She was eventually condemned to public execution, but her body was

taken by the spirits and preserved for resurrection. When the

underworld blossomed into a garden of paradise because of her

presence, she was quickly accorded divine status. As a divinity she

would meditate regularly on the plight of humankind and extend mercy

in answer to every prayer, but she continued to assume physical

incarnations, moving among people in order to help them physically

and spiritually.

 

 

However historically, Kwan Yin is an import from the Indian

subcontinent, brought to China by Buddhist missionaries in the form

of a Bodhisattva or Future Buddha. According to the Buddhist

theology, a bodhisattva was an enlightened one, who through

generations had learned how to escape the endless cycle of death and

resurrection that afflicted the rest of the humanity, but who, as an

act of compassion, regularly chose a body in which to be reborn so

that he could help others to reach salvation.

 

Kwan Yin was originally as Avolokiteshvara, the male bodhisattva of

compassion, and her transformation into a goddess may appear to be

something of an enigma in a religion where women were regarded as

less perfect beings then men.

 

However when Buddhism was introduced in China under the Han Dynasty

in the 3rd century AD, it soon syncretized with Taoism and

Confucianism.

 

These religions may have cause the metamorphosis of Avolokiteshvara

by confusing him with an indigenous female deity. The germinal Kwan

Yin may have been the ancient mother Goddess, Nu-Kua, who was a

guardian of humankind, or the Taoist deity called Queen of Heaven.

 

A bodhisattva combines the attributes of knowledge and compassion,

and in this light it is perhaps not surprisingly that the male

Avolokiteshvara should be assimilated with a Goddess, who often

exercise mercy on her role as the all-knowing judge of the dead.

 

 

 

Om ParaSakthiye Namaha

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Greetings all,

There is a Kuan Yin temple here in Singapore at Waterloo Street (

Bugis).Many devotees ( not only chinese but also indians) come here to offer

their prayers to her.They offer her lotus usually. Also alot of her devotees

told me Kuan Yin is a male who was painted to look like a lady,so people

concluded that Kuan Yin was a woman. I dont know how true this is,anyone know

more?

Nora <ashwini_puralasamy wrote:Kuan Yin is also sometimes known as

Guanyin and in Japan she is

known as Kwannon. She is also known as "the one who hears

prayers/sounds/weeping". She is also protective of women and

children.

 

Her popularity is enhanced by a Chinese legend, which identifies her

as an indigenous princess called Miao Shan. She was the third

daughter of a King and suffered terrible punishments after refusing

to marry anyone but an ordinary Physician.

 

She was eventually condemned to public execution, but her body was

taken by the spirits and preserved for resurrection. When the

underworld blossomed into a garden of paradise because of her

presence, she was quickly accorded divine status. As a divinity she

would meditate regularly on the plight of humankind and extend mercy

in answer to every prayer, but she continued to assume physical

incarnations, moving among people in order to help them physically

and spiritually.

 

 

However historically, Kwan Yin is an import from the Indian

subcontinent, brought to China by Buddhist missionaries in the form

of a Bodhisattva or Future Buddha. According to the Buddhist

theology, a bodhisattva was an enlightened one, who through

generations had learned how to escape the endless cycle of death and

resurrection that afflicted the rest of the humanity, but who, as an

act of compassion, regularly chose a body in which to be reborn so

that he could help others to reach salvation.

 

Kwan Yin was originally as Avolokiteshvara, the male bodhisattva of

compassion, and her transformation into a goddess may appear to be

something of an enigma in a religion where women were regarded as

less perfect beings then men.

 

However when Buddhism was introduced in China under the Han Dynasty

in the 3rd century AD, it soon syncretized with Taoism and

Confucianism.

 

These religions may have cause the metamorphosis of Avolokiteshvara

by confusing him with an indigenous female deity. The germinal Kwan

Yin may have been the ancient mother Goddess, Nu-Kua, who was a

guardian of humankind, or the Taoist deity called Queen of Heaven.

 

A bodhisattva combines the attributes of knowledge and compassion,

and in this light it is perhaps not surprisingly that the male

Avolokiteshvara should be assimilated with a Goddess, who often

exercise mercy on her role as the all-knowing judge of the dead.

 

 

 

Om ParaSakthiye Namaha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Greetings M.P

 

"There is a Kuan Yin temple here in Singapore at Waterloo Street

(

Bugis).Many devotees ( not only chinese but also indians) come here

to offer their prayers to her.They offer her lotus usually"

Yes! Waterloo Street, there is a famous Kuan Yin temple. Indeed a lot

of Indians and Chinese too pay homage to Her especially during Vesak

day.

 

 

"Also alot of her devotees told me Kuan Yin is a male who was

painted

to look like a lady, so people concluded that Kuan Yin was a woman. I

dont know how true this is, anyone know more?"

 

This is a picture of Kuan Yin as a man.

http://www.shaktisadhana.org/Photo%20Gallery/Tara12.html

 

Read on Tara/Kuan Yin's vow

 

 

Beautiful and informative site created by Kuan Yin Bhakta, which

consists of Kuan Yin Prayers, mantras, poetry, more pictures etc

 

http://www.geocities.com/isisdownunder1/

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Namaste,

 

Tara in Sanskrit means 'star'. I wonder which star? Kenneth Rexroth

suggests in his poetry that Marishiten/Marishi Devi is also to be

equated to Tara, and that she was indeed the Evening Star: Venus -

 

"The Morning Star (Marishiten) glows over the ocean of the

universe..." [bopsecrets website on rexroth].

 

- from 'The Silver Swan' (c1970)

 

"A ray of the Morning Star

Pierces a shaft of moon-filled mist.

A naked girl takes form

And comes towards me - translucent,

Her body made of infinite

Whirling points of light..."

 

In this poem the Morning Star, who in Sanskrit is literally 'Tara',

unites with the poet.

 

It is a moment of "star and crescent". This is also telling, since an

ancient Hindu myth pictures Soma as the moon, pursuing Tara across

the heavens... I myself have actually witnessed the crescent moon

closing on Venus in the westering sky of evening.

 

Now Rexroth was a scholar of Buddhism, as well as being a poet - he

appears to have drawn on an esoteric strand of Buddhism for

inspiration to the Silver Swan, and I quote from the 'bopsecrets'

website:-

 

"In 'Late half moon', Shakamuni unites with his consort Tara in

Tantric union of wisdom and love".

 

This is interesting, because the 'traditional' moment of

Enlightenment comes to the Buddha with the light of the Morning Star.

 

So, is Tara in fact the planet Venus?

 

 

Please disregard entirely sorry attempts by male-dominated Buddhism

to turn Tara into a man. Tara is a Goddess and she stands, if needs

be, on her own - over thousands of years and within many cultural

contexts.

 

m6

 

 

 

, "Nora"

<ashwini_puralasamy> wrote:

> Nila Saraswati Tara : The Devi Who Guides Through Troubles

>

> O Mother, Devi Nilasaraswati Tara

> Refuge with Thee I crave.

> Giver of prosperity and wealth art Thou

> To those who worship Thee.

> Standing on Siva,

> Thy right foot upon His breast and left upon His thigh

> Ever art Thou, with smiling lotus-like face.

> Thy three eyes are, as it were, full-blown lotuses.

> In Thy hands, Thou holdest a knife, a skull, a lotus, and a sword.

>

> Thou art the presiding Devi of speech.

> Thou art the creeper which grants all desires.

> Thou art the giver of all siddi,

> And the power to write both verse and prose.

> Three are Thine eyes, as it were blue lotuses.

> Ocean of Kindness and compassion art Thou.

> I pray to Thee of Thy mercy shower upon me the nectar of prosperity.

>

> O Sharbha, I pray Thee remove my fears,

> Proud Lady, brilliant are Thy garments,

> Bright with coiling serpents,

> Thou are clad in tiger skin,

> Thy waist is adorned with tiny tinkling bells.

> Thou holdest the heads of two demons

> Drippling with blood, just severed by the sword.

> Thy waist is girdles with heads of demons,

> As it were with a garland.

> Thus art Thou beautiful,

> O formidable One.

>

> O Devi Tara, attained with difficulty,

> I take refuge with Thee.

> Thou art beautiful with form both amorous and charmful.

> Thou art Bindu and the half-moon.

> Whose substance is Hrim and Phat

> Thou art mantra and the shelter of all.

> Thy forms are threefold –

> Gross, Subtle, and Supreme.

> Thou art beyond the reach of Veda.

>

> By the service of Thy lotus feet,

> Men of good deed attain sayujya liberation.

> O Paramesvari Thou art the Spouse of Him

> Who is Brahman, Visn and the three-eyed One.

> O Mother! He who neglects to serve Thy lotus feet,

> But serves instead the Devas, Indra and others,

> Who are themselves pluged in the ocean of samsara.

> Is indeed and most truly ignorant.

>

> O Mother! Those Devas who receive on their crowns

> The polent which comes from Thy lotus-like feet.

> Are able to keep their promise of conquest,

> And to gain victory over their enemies in battle –

> Such, without a doubt, are sheltered in Thy lap.

> But their enemies who send forth the defiant challenge.

> "I am a Deva, and none is equal to me in the whole world"

> Perish and meet such death as befits them.

>

> Bhuta, Preta, Pisacha, Raksasa,

> Daitya, foremost of Danava, Yaksa, Lords of Naga.

> Wrathful Dakini, great birds, tigers and other dreadful creatures

> Forthwith take flight at but the remembrance of Thy name,

> And are powerless to do aught of evil.

>

> Who serves Thy lotus feet, to him siddhi is given.

> He surpasses the Lord of Speech.

> And obtains the beauty of Kama,

> He can charm and paralyze multitudes of elephants upon the field of

> battle,

> And has power to stay the flow of water.

> The Siddha and prosperity are under his control.

>

> Phalasloka

> Whoever, being pure and self-controlled,

> Reads this eight-versed hymns to Tara,

> At morn, at noon, at evening,

> To him is given

> The power to write beautifully in prose or verse,

> Knowledge in all Sastra,

> Imperishable fortune,

> The Enjoyment of whatsoever he may desire,

> Fame, beauty, and wealth,

> The love of all men,

> And at the end liberation.

>

> From Nila Tantra

> Arthur Avalon

>

>

> *************************************************

>

> Kuan Yin, Goddess of Compassion

>

>

>

> I made the vow

> and kept my word

> I reached enlightenment

> but rather than pass over

> to the state of eternal bliss

> I retain human form

> till all beings attain enlightenment

> Keeping human form

> enabled me to know more deeply

> the pain others experience

> Because of my deep feelings

> because of my understanding

> of misery and suffering

> because of my decision

> I am called The Compassionate One

> She Whose Name Alleviates All Suffering

> But wouldn't you prefer to wait

> feeling what others feel

> suffering what others suffer

> knowing their pain as your own

> wait till the end of all suffering and pain

> till all beings attain enlightenment?

> For me there was no other choice

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Note: Venus is the Morning or Evening Star, depending on her

visibility towards the horizon in the dawn or dusk.

 

Thank you,

 

m6

 

 

, "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Tara in Sanskrit means 'star'. I wonder which star? Kenneth Rexroth

> suggests in his poetry that Marishiten/Marishi Devi is also to be

> equated to Tara, and that she was indeed the Evening Star: Venus -

>

> "The Morning Star (Marishiten) glows over the ocean of the

> universe..." [bopsecrets website on rexroth].

>

> - from 'The Silver Swan' (c1970)

>

> "A ray of the Morning Star

> Pierces a shaft of moon-filled mist.

> A naked girl takes form

> And comes towards me - translucent,

> Her body made of infinite

> Whirling points of light..."

>

> In this poem the Morning Star, who in Sanskrit is literally 'Tara',

> unites with the poet.

>

> It is a moment of "star and crescent". This is also telling, since

an

> ancient Hindu myth pictures Soma as the moon, pursuing Tara across

> the heavens... I myself have actually witnessed the crescent moon

> closing on Venus in the westering sky of evening.

>

> Now Rexroth was a scholar of Buddhism, as well as being a poet - he

> appears to have drawn on an esoteric strand of Buddhism for

> inspiration to the Silver Swan, and I quote from the 'bopsecrets'

> website:-

>

> "In 'Late half moon', Shakamuni unites with his consort Tara in

> Tantric union of wisdom and love".

>

> This is interesting, because the 'traditional' moment of

> Enlightenment comes to the Buddha with the light of the Morning

Star.

>

> So, is Tara in fact the planet Venus?

>

>

> Please disregard entirely sorry attempts by male-dominated Buddhism

> to turn Tara into a man. Tara is a Goddess and she stands, if needs

> be, on her own - over thousands of years and within many cultural

> contexts.

>

> m6

>

>

>

> , "Nora"

> <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote:

> > Nila Saraswati Tara : The Devi Who Guides Through Troubles

> >

> > O Mother, Devi Nilasaraswati Tara

> > Refuge with Thee I crave.

> > Giver of prosperity and wealth art Thou

> > To those who worship Thee.

> > Standing on Siva,

> > Thy right foot upon His breast and left upon His thigh

> > Ever art Thou, with smiling lotus-like face.

> > Thy three eyes are, as it were, full-blown lotuses.

> > In Thy hands, Thou holdest a knife, a skull, a lotus, and a sword.

> >

> > Thou art the presiding Devi of speech.

> > Thou art the creeper which grants all desires.

> > Thou art the giver of all siddi,

> > And the power to write both verse and prose.

> > Three are Thine eyes, as it were blue lotuses.

> > Ocean of Kindness and compassion art Thou.

> > I pray to Thee of Thy mercy shower upon me the nectar of

prosperity.

> >

> > O Sharbha, I pray Thee remove my fears,

> > Proud Lady, brilliant are Thy garments,

> > Bright with coiling serpents,

> > Thou are clad in tiger skin,

> > Thy waist is adorned with tiny tinkling bells.

> > Thou holdest the heads of two demons

> > Drippling with blood, just severed by the sword.

> > Thy waist is girdles with heads of demons,

> > As it were with a garland.

> > Thus art Thou beautiful,

> > O formidable One.

> >

> > O Devi Tara, attained with difficulty,

> > I take refuge with Thee.

> > Thou art beautiful with form both amorous and charmful.

> > Thou art Bindu and the half-moon.

> > Whose substance is Hrim and Phat

> > Thou art mantra and the shelter of all.

> > Thy forms are threefold –

> > Gross, Subtle, and Supreme.

> > Thou art beyond the reach of Veda.

> >

> > By the service of Thy lotus feet,

> > Men of good deed attain sayujya liberation.

> > O Paramesvari Thou art the Spouse of Him

> > Who is Brahman, Visn and the three-eyed One.

> > O Mother! He who neglects to serve Thy lotus feet,

> > But serves instead the Devas, Indra and others,

> > Who are themselves pluged in the ocean of samsara.

> > Is indeed and most truly ignorant.

> >

> > O Mother! Those Devas who receive on their crowns

> > The polent which comes from Thy lotus-like feet.

> > Are able to keep their promise of conquest,

> > And to gain victory over their enemies in battle –

> > Such, without a doubt, are sheltered in Thy lap.

> > But their enemies who send forth the defiant challenge.

> > "I am a Deva, and none is equal to me in the whole world"

> > Perish and meet such death as befits them.

> >

> > Bhuta, Preta, Pisacha, Raksasa,

> > Daitya, foremost of Danava, Yaksa, Lords of Naga.

> > Wrathful Dakini, great birds, tigers and other dreadful creatures

> > Forthwith take flight at but the remembrance of Thy name,

> > And are powerless to do aught of evil.

> >

> > Who serves Thy lotus feet, to him siddhi is given.

> > He surpasses the Lord of Speech.

> > And obtains the beauty of Kama,

> > He can charm and paralyze multitudes of elephants upon the field

of

> > battle,

> > And has power to stay the flow of water.

> > The Siddha and prosperity are under his control.

> >

> > Phalasloka

> > Whoever, being pure and self-controlled,

> > Reads this eight-versed hymns to Tara,

> > At morn, at noon, at evening,

> > To him is given

> > The power to write beautifully in prose or verse,

> > Knowledge in all Sastra,

> > Imperishable fortune,

> > The Enjoyment of whatsoever he may desire,

> > Fame, beauty, and wealth,

> > The love of all men,

> > And at the end liberation.

> >

> > From Nila Tantra

> > Arthur Avalon

> >

> >

> > *************************************************

> >

> > Kuan Yin, Goddess of Compassion

> >

> >

> >

> > I made the vow

> > and kept my word

> > I reached enlightenment

> > but rather than pass over

> > to the state of eternal bliss

> > I retain human form

> > till all beings attain enlightenment

> > Keeping human form

> > enabled me to know more deeply

> > the pain others experience

> > Because of my deep feelings

> > because of my understanding

> > of misery and suffering

> > because of my decision

> > I am called The Compassionate One

> > She Whose Name Alleviates All Suffering

> > But wouldn't you prefer to wait

> > feeling what others feel

> > suffering what others suffer

> > knowing their pain as your own

> > wait till the end of all suffering and pain

> > till all beings attain enlightenment?

> > For me there was no other choice

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So, is Tara in fact the planet Venus?

 

 

Thank you megalith. It is a pleasure to see you again.

 

I am actually in the midst of gathering information about Tara for

the group page, see no harm in sharing this information now.

 

Apparently in the ancient times without the knowledge of the stars

and their movements it is not really possible to find one's way

over

great distances. Tara is often mentioned as the goddess of

navigation. So for a mariner or the traveler through the desert or

jungle, where there are no landmarks, the stars are being used as

guidance. The stars provided both orientation and an assurance of

safe passage.

 

Two most significant "stars" were Venus and the pole star.

Infact in

all Indo-European cultures dependent on long distance travel a

principle divinity was identified with the planet Venus. Venus is

most often being portrayed or deified in female figures, often

associating with the moon and fertility. In India, apparently certain

key stars: the pole-star or North Star ( also known as Dhruva Tara )

are usually being used as navigational guided for vogaters over the

sea and travelers through the huge wildernesses that once covered the

Indian subcontinent.

 

In the Vishnu Puranaa, theres was a Braahminacal legend of Tara. In

this story Tara was the wife of Brhaspati ( planet Jupiter ) and one

day she was abducted by Some ( the moon ). Despite the efforts of

Brhaspati to recover her and even Brahmaa command that she be

returned, Soma refused. A great battle follow suit. This battle was

so huge that even "The Earth shaken to its very center and cried

out

for protection". Tara was eventually restored back to her husband

and

later on gave birth to Buddha ( planet Mercury ) who turns out to be

the child of Soma.

 

In the 108 names of Tara, she is called the leader of the caravan,

who showed the way to those who have lost it. She is also called

Dhruvaa.

 

Spiritually, Tara not only gave guidance across mundane sea and the

wilderness, and led travelers/pilgrims back to the safe path, she

have the power to ferry the spiritual seeker across the ocean of

existence and show the way out of the jungles of conditioned

existence towards Enlightenment itself

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Namaste Nora,

 

I strongly suspect that Tara was Venus in pre-Vedic astronomy and

astrology, because the planet Venus in Old Tamil is (still)

feminine 'Velli', whereas in contemporary Hindu starlore it is, or

has become, masculine Shukra.

 

The legend you paraphrase speaks volumes in that, every single

heavenly body is identified e x c e p t Tara:-

 

Soma = the Moon

Brhaspati = Jupiter

Buda = Mercury

Tara = ????????????

 

Tara's been erased, and her 'star' usurped by Shukra, I suspect.

 

Furthermore, the likelihood of an astrological conjunction between

Jupiter or the Moon and the Pole Star is presumably impossible? -

although I am no astronomer; conjunctions between the Moon, Jupiter

and Venus must occur - it seems to me - and would have led to such

legends as the one you describe: these events in the night sky would

have been meticulously observed by the ancient astronomers, in India,

I should have thought?

 

Thank you Nora -

 

Om Tara!

 

m6

 

 

, "Nora"

<ashwini_puralasamy> wrote:

> So, is Tara in fact the planet Venus?

>

>

> Thank you megalith. It is a pleasure to see you again.

>

> I am actually in the midst of gathering information about Tara for

> the group page, see no harm in sharing this information now.

>

> Apparently in the ancient times without the knowledge of the stars

> and their movements it is not really possible to find one's way

> over

> great distances. Tara is often mentioned as the goddess of

> navigation. So for a mariner or the traveler through the desert or

> jungle, where there are no landmarks, the stars are being used as

> guidance. The stars provided both orientation and an assurance of

> safe passage.

>

> Two most significant "stars" were Venus and the pole star.

> Infact in

> all Indo-European cultures dependent on long distance travel a

> principle divinity was identified with the planet Venus. Venus is

> most often being portrayed or deified in female figures, often

> associating with the moon and fertility. In India, apparently

certain

> key stars: the pole-star or North Star ( also known as Dhruva

Tara )

> are usually being used as navigational guided for vogaters over the

> sea and travelers through the huge wildernesses that once covered

the

> Indian subcontinent.

>

> In the Vishnu Puranaa, theres was a Braahminacal legend of Tara. In

> this story Tara was the wife of Brhaspati ( planet Jupiter ) and

one

> day she was abducted by Some ( the moon ). Despite the efforts of

> Brhaspati to recover her and even Brahmaa command that she be

> returned, Soma refused. A great battle follow suit. This battle was

> so huge that even "The Earth shaken to its very center and cried

> out

> for protection". Tara was eventually restored back to her husband

> and

> later on gave birth to Buddha ( planet Mercury ) who turns out to

be

> the child of Soma.

>

> In the 108 names of Tara, she is called the leader of the caravan,

> who showed the way to those who have lost it. She is also called

> Dhruvaa.

>

> Spiritually, Tara not only gave guidance across mundane sea and the

> wilderness, and led travelers/pilgrims back to the safe path, she

> have the power to ferry the spiritual seeker across the ocean of

> existence and show the way out of the jungles of conditioned

> existence towards Enlightenment itself

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Namaste,

 

I've actually found a reference to Shukra as 'Vena', a male deity who

was 'transformed' by Shiva ... into yet a male deity, presumably into

Shukra?

 

Quite a coincidence(?) then, that we have a Vedic Vena parallel to a

Dravidian Velli - both meaning the planet Venus, but the former male

and the latter female.

 

Velli appears to be the name for the planet Venus at Harrapa.

 

m6

 

, "m6" <megalith6@h...> wrote:

> Namaste Nora,

>

> I strongly suspect that Tara was Venus in pre-Vedic astronomy and

> astrology, because the planet Venus in Old Tamil is (still)

> feminine 'Velli', whereas in contemporary Hindu starlore it is, or

> has become, masculine Shukra.

>

> The legend you paraphrase speaks volumes in that, every single

> heavenly body is identified e x c e p t Tara:-

>

> Soma = the Moon

> Brhaspati = Jupiter

> Buda = Mercury

> Tara = ????????????

>

> Tara's been erased, and her 'star' usurped by Shukra, I suspect.

>

> Furthermore, the likelihood of an astrological conjunction between

> Jupiter or the Moon and the Pole Star is presumably impossible? -

> although I am no astronomer; conjunctions between the Moon, Jupiter

> and Venus must occur - it seems to me - and would have led to such

> legends as the one you describe: these events in the night sky

would

> have been meticulously observed by the ancient astronomers, in

India,

> I should have thought?

>

> Thank you Nora -

>

> Om Tara!

>

> m6

>

>

> , "Nora"

> <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote:

> > So, is Tara in fact the planet Venus?

> >

> >

> > Thank you megalith. It is a pleasure to see you again.

> >

> > I am actually in the midst of gathering information about Tara

for

> > the group page, see no harm in sharing this information now.

> >

> > Apparently in the ancient times without the knowledge of the

stars

> > and their movements it is not really possible to find one's way

> > over

> > great distances. Tara is often mentioned as the goddess of

> > navigation. So for a mariner or the traveler through the desert

or

> > jungle, where there are no landmarks, the stars are being used as

> > guidance. The stars provided both orientation and an assurance of

> > safe passage.

> >

> > Two most significant "stars" were Venus and the pole star.

> > Infact in

> > all Indo-European cultures dependent on long distance travel a

> > principle divinity was identified with the planet Venus. Venus is

> > most often being portrayed or deified in female figures, often

> > associating with the moon and fertility. In India, apparently

> certain

> > key stars: the pole-star or North Star ( also known as Dhruva

> Tara )

> > are usually being used as navigational guided for vogaters over

the

> > sea and travelers through the huge wildernesses that once covered

> the

> > Indian subcontinent.

> >

> > In the Vishnu Puranaa, theres was a Braahminacal legend of Tara.

In

> > this story Tara was the wife of Brhaspati ( planet Jupiter ) and

> one

> > day she was abducted by Some ( the moon ). Despite the efforts of

> > Brhaspati to recover her and even Brahmaa command that she be

> > returned, Soma refused. A great battle follow suit. This battle

was

> > so huge that even "The Earth shaken to its very center and cried

> > out

> > for protection". Tara was eventually restored back to her husband

> > and

> > later on gave birth to Buddha ( planet Mercury ) who turns out to

> be

> > the child of Soma.

> >

> > In the 108 names of Tara, she is called the leader of the

caravan,

> > who showed the way to those who have lost it. She is also called

> > Dhruvaa.

> >

> > Spiritually, Tara not only gave guidance across mundane sea and

the

> > wilderness, and led travelers/pilgrims back to the safe path, she

> > have the power to ferry the spiritual seeker across the ocean of

> > existence and show the way out of the jungles of conditioned

> > existence towards Enlightenment itself

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