Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Namaste Shaktas, >From another web site I have seen reference to nine flowers being gathered together at this spring festival, to form the body of a goddess: Shri Devi, of course. But I myself can find no reference to this, possibly, folk practice. I have however found mention of flowers for Panchami Navaratri, which appears to be the fifth day of this vernal observance. I also wondered if the 'nine aspects of Durga' which are venerated at the autumnal Navaratri correspond to the nine Maha Vidyas, who are aspects of Maha Devi: Kali Ma - Kali being the tenth, or the first; depending on how the group is perceived. Can anybody help, please? Thank you. Jai Om! m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 I also wondered if the 'nine aspects of Durga' which are venerated at the autumnal Navaratri correspond to the nine Maha Vidyas, who are aspects of Maha Devi: Kali Ma - Kali being the tenth, or the first; depending on how the group is perceived. I am not sure I'm the right person, but I just like to say my piece : I've read somewhere that some Durga Bhaktaa ( A female devotee of Durga ) regarded the navadurga as the various stages in the womans life cycle. They can also be as the various spiritual development that we undergoes. As for the Mahavidyas there are various thoughts about this; several which I am familiar and kinda of agree with are : 1. Considers as the stages in Women's Lives 2. Stages ( or types ) of consciousness experienced by a Sadhak in their spiritual development. 3. Representatives of transcendent knowledge and power, the sources of all that is to be known. 4. Signifies the various degrees and stages of existence. 5. Since Mahadevi causes bondage, she also causes liberation. Therefore the Ten Mahavidyas can be said to be the means in which the goddess brings about enlightment by means of liberating knowledge. In the Devi Mahatmya, Durga is referred to as Mahavidyas several times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Namaste Nora, We seem to be looking at an eternal triad. There is a form of Devi known as Tripura. The 'tri' element in her name appears to connect with the mythological concept of the three worlds: heaven, earth, underworld. Tripura must be what Robert Graves described as 'The Triple Goddess'. His books are not always that reliable, but with the Triple Goddess he really came up with something. Western scholars dispute her existence but she is here for all to marvel at - Tripura: The Triple Goddess. Nine is a logical extension of three, thus 9 aspects of Durga plus her totality = 10; 9 Goddesses as aspects of the One, 1 + 9 = 10 Mahavidyas. There is an astounding parallel in Welsh mythology. The god Lleu had a consort - a spring bride - fashioned for him from three types of flower: broom, meadowsweet and oak. In an older version there are nine flowers used to create the Lady for the Lord; she is called Blodeuwedd, 'made of flowers'. This cannot be coincidence: the goddess, the nine and the three. We are looking at an extremely archaic Indo-European myth, which time has forgotten the genesis of - an ancient myth which is equally at home in Calcutta as it is in Aberystwyth . . . Jai Maa, m6 , "Nora" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > I also wondered if the 'nine aspects of Durga' which are venerated at > the autumnal Navaratri correspond to the nine Maha Vidyas, who are > aspects of Maha Devi: Kali Ma - Kali being the tenth, or the first; > depending on how the group is perceived. > > > > I am not sure I'm the right person, but I just like to say my piece : > > I've read somewhere that some Durga Bhaktaa ( A female devotee of > Durga ) regarded the navadurga as the various stages in the womans > life cycle. They can also be as the various spiritual development > that we undergoes. > > As for the Mahavidyas there are various thoughts about this; several > which I am familiar and kinda of agree with are : > > 1. Considers as the stages in Women's Lives > 2. Stages ( or types ) of consciousness experienced by a Sadhak > in their spiritual development. > 3. Representatives of transcendent knowledge and power, the > sources of all that is to be known. > 4. Signifies the various degrees and stages of existence. > 5. Since Mahadevi causes bondage, she also causes liberation. > Therefore the Ten Mahavidyas can be said to be the means in which the > goddess brings about enlightment by means of liberating knowledge. > > In the Devi Mahatmya, Durga is referred to as Mahavidyas several times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 "Nine is a logical extension of three, thus 9 aspects of Durga plus her totality = 10; 9 Goddesses as aspects of the One, 1 + 9 = 10 Mahavidyas" But the Navdurga is not the only aspects of Durga. Durga Devi have others forms too ( I believe her tantrik form ) : a) Shanta Durga ( The Peacemaker ) b) Shri Vana Durga ( The durga of the Forest ), c) Rudramsa-durga ( close association with Siva ) d) Vindhya-Vasini (who resides in the Vindhya mountains.), e) Mahisha Mardini (slayer of the buffalo demon), f) Shodasa-bhuja-durga (naked with 18 arms), g) 8-armed Durga with an umbrella of nagas, h) 18-armed Durga (from the Sri-tattva-nidhi) i) Vyaghra-vahana Durga. Lakshmi Devi : The AstaLakshmi and not forgetting LakshmiNarayani or Vesudeva-Kamalaji ( the tantrik form of Lakshmi ) Saraswati Devi : Matangi ( the tantrik form ). I was told too that there are 12 forms of Saraswati ( Diparnava & Devatamurti ) Diparnava of Vishvakarma: a) Sarasvati Prathma b) Sarasvati Dvitiya c) Kamalarukshini d) Jayadevi e) Vijayadevi f) Sarangdevi g) Tumbaridevi h) Naradidevi i) Sarva Mangala j) Vidyadhari k) Sarva Vidya l) Sarva Prasanna(Naradi)) Devatamurti a) Mahavidya b) Mahavani c) Bharati d) Sarasvati e) Arya f) Brahmi g) Mahadhenu h) Vedagarbha i) Ishvari j) Mahalakshmi k) Mahakali l) Mahasarasvati Kali too is said have 12 forms: a) Sristi Kali b) Rakta Kali c) Sthitinasha Kali d) Yama Kali e) Samhara Kali f) Mrityu Kali g) Rudra Kali h) Martanda Kali i) Paramarka Kali j) Kalagnirudra Kali k) Mahakala Kali l) Maha-bhairave-ghora-canda Kali I am very sure the other Maha Vidyas too have other multiple manifestations. It is really fascinating that most of the Devis have multiple manifestations and if we really look at it, its always in the multiple of Three. Three being an auspicious number. Even the concept of Trinity like : the Maiden, Mother and Crone is very much associated with The Devis' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2003 Report Share Posted April 27, 2003 , "Nora" <ashwini_puralasamy> wrote: > "Nine is a logical extension of three, thus 9 aspects of Durga > plus her totality = 10; 9 Goddesses as aspects of the One, 1 + 9 = 10 > Mahavidyas" > > But the Navdurga is not the only aspects of Durga. Durga Devi have > others forms too ( I believe her tantrik form ) : > > a) Shanta Durga ( The Peacemaker ) > b) Shri Vana Durga ( The durga of the Forest ), > c) Rudramsa-durga ( close association with Siva ) > d) Vindhya-Vasini (who resides in the Vindhya mountains.), > e) Mahisha Mardini (slayer of the buffalo demon), > f) Shodasa-bhuja-durga (naked with 18 arms), > g) 8-armed Durga with an umbrella of nagas, > h) 18-armed Durga (from the Sri-tattva-nidhi) > i) Vyaghra-vahana Durga. > > Lakshmi Devi : The AstaLakshmi and not forgetting LakshmiNarayani or > Vesudeva-Kamalaji ( the tantrik form of Lakshmi ) > > Saraswati Devi : Matangi ( the tantrik form ). I was told too that > there are 12 forms of Saraswati ( Diparnava & Devatamurti ) > > Diparnava of Vishvakarma: > a) Sarasvati Prathma > b) Sarasvati Dvitiya > c) Kamalarukshini > d) Jayadevi > e) Vijayadevi > f) Sarangdevi > g) Tumbaridevi > h) Naradidevi > i) Sarva Mangala > j) Vidyadhari > k) Sarva Vidya > l) Sarva Prasanna(Naradi)) > > Devatamurti > a) Mahavidya > b) Mahavani > c) Bharati > d) Sarasvati > e) Arya > f) Brahmi > g) Mahadhenu > h) Vedagarbha > i) Ishvari > j) Mahalakshmi > k) Mahakali > l) Mahasarasvati > > Kali too is said have 12 forms: > a) Sristi Kali > b) Rakta Kali > c) Sthitinasha Kali > d) Yama Kali > e) Samhara Kali > f) Mrityu Kali > g) Rudra Kali > h) Martanda Kali > i) Paramarka Kali > j) Kalagnirudra Kali > k) Mahakala Kali > l) Maha-bhairave-ghora-canda Kali > > I am very sure the other Maha Vidyas too have other multiple > manifestations. > > It is really fascinating that most of the Devis have multiple > manifestations and if we really look at it, its always in the > multiple of Three. Three being an auspicious number. Even the concept > of Trinity like : the Maiden, Mother and Crone is very much > associated with The Devis' Namaste Nora, Quite so - The order of the Mahavidyas is anything but rigid, especially after the first three or so manifestations of Devi. Jai Ma, m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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