Yoga is pure science.=Part 2

[Guest guest]

I say it is not a religion and I say it is not a philosophy. It is not something

you can think about. It is something you will have to be; thinking won't do.

Thinking goes on in your head. It is not really deep into the roots of your

being, it is not your totality. It is just a part, a functional part. It can be

trained and you can argue logically, you can think rationally, but your heart

will remain the same. Your heart is your deepest center, your head is just a

branch. You can be without the head but you cannot be without the heart. Your

head is not basic.

 

Yoga is concerned with your total being, with your roots. It is not

philosophical. So with Patanjali we will not be thinking, speculating. With

Patanjali we will be trying to know the ultimate laws of being, the laws for its

transformation, the laws of how to die and how to be reborn again, the laws for

a new order of being. That is why I call it a science.

 

Patanjali is rare. He is an enlightened person like Buddha, like Krishna, like

Christ, like Mahavira, Mohammed, Zarathustra, but he is different in one way.

Buddha, Krishna, Mahavira, Zarathustra, Mohammed -- none of them has a

scientific attitude. They are great founders of religions. They have changed the

whole pattern of the human mind and its structure, but their approach is not

scientific.

 

Patanjali is like an Einstein in the world of buddhas. He is a phenomenon. He

could easily have been a Nobel Prize winner like an Einstein or Bohr or Max

Planck or Heisenberg. He has the same attitude, the same approach as a rigorous,

scientific mind. He is not a poet; Krishna is a poet. He is not a moralist;

Mahavira is a moralist. He is basically a scientist who is thinking in terms of

laws. And he has come to deduce absolute laws of the human being, the ultimate

working structure of the human mind and of reality.

 

And if you follow Patanjali you will come to know that he is as exact as any

mathematical formula. Simply do what he says and the result will happen. The

result is bound to happen -- it is just like two plus two become four; it is

just like you heat water up to one hundred degrees and it evaporates. No belief

is needed, you simply do it and know. It is something to be done and known.

That's why I say there is no comparison: never again has a man existed on this

Earth like Patanjali.

 

You can find poetry in Buddha's utterances; it is bound to be there. Many times

while Buddha is expressing himself he becomes poetic. The realm of ecstasy, the

realm of ultimate knowing is so beautiful, the temptation is so strong to become

poetic...the beauty is such, the benediction is such, the bliss is such that one

starts talking in poetic language.

 

But Patanjali resists that. It is very difficult, no one else has been able to

resist. Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, they all became poetic. When the splendor, the

beauty explode within you, you will start dancing, you will start singing. In

that state you are just like a lover who has fallen in love with the whole

universe.

 

Patanjali resists that. He will not use poetry; he will not even use a single

poetic symbol. He will not do anything with poetry. He will not talk in terms of

beauty: he will talk in terms of mathematics, he will be exact. And he will give

you maxims -- those maxims are just indications of what is to be done. He will

not explode into ecstasy, he will not say things that cannot be said, he will

not try the impossible. He will just put down the foundation and if you follow

the foundation you will reach the peak which is beyond. He is a rigorous

mathematician, remember this.

 

Osho: The Path of Yoga

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

OM Supraath

 

On this subject of Patanjali and the Raja Yoga Sutras, Osho is

correct. The Raja Yoga Sutras is the best textbook on human

consciousness that one could ask for. But it is a textbook that

invites you to eventually leave behind a linear, rational mind and,

instead, develop and use the chakras to become wise and gain

moksha.

 

As for Osho's insistence that Patanjali is a mathematician and

that he puts "down the foundation and if you follow the

foundation you will reach the peak which is beyond", at first

glance this seems to indicate a rational, logic mindset and

acareful, build-up, brick by brick, from a foundation to a finished

construct. This would contradictory to the idea of leaving

rationality behind. But, the reference to mathematics more likely

indicates a reference to sacred geometry, the double helix of ida

and pingala, and the ascent of Kundalini to 'the peak which is

beyond'.

 

Rationality, sadhana, willpower, vigilance will take you to the

threshold of moksha, but to receive moksha one must finally

take leave of reading, rationality, logic and analysis and rely

instead on the intuitional gateways of the chakras and the grace

of God and Guru.

 

OM Namah Sivaya

 

Omprem

 

 

 

, Friends of Osho

<supraath> wrote:

>

> I say it is not a religion and I say it is not a philosophy. It is not

something you can think about. It is something you will have to

be; thinking won't do. Thinking goes on in your head. It is not

really deep into the roots of your being, it is not your totality. It is

just a part, a functional part. It can be trained and you can argue

logically, you can think rationally, but your heart will remain the

same. Your heart is your deepest center, your head is just a

branch. You can be without the head but you cannot be without

the heart. Your head is not basic.

>

> Yoga is concerned with your total being, with your roots. It is not

philosophical. So with Patanjali we will not be thinking,

speculating. With Patanjali we will be trying to know the ultimate

laws of being, the laws for its transformation, the laws of how to

die and how to be reborn again, the laws for a new order of

being. That is why I call it a science.

>

> Patanjali is rare. He is an enlightened person like Buddha, like

Krishna, like Christ, like Mahavira, Mohammed, Zarathustra, but

he is different in one way. Buddha, Krishna, Mahavira,

Zarathustra, Mohammed -- none of them has a scientific attitude.

They are great founders of religions. They have changed the

whole pattern of the human mind and its structure, but their

approach is not scientific.

>

> Patanjali is like an Einstein in the world of buddhas. He is a

phenomenon. He could easily have been a Nobel Prize winner

like an Einstein or Bohr or Max Planck or Heisenberg. He has the

same attitude, the same approach as a rigorous, scientific mind.

He is not a poet; Krishna is a poet. He is not a moralist; Mahavira

is a moralist. He is basically a scientist who is thinking in terms

of laws. And he has come to deduce absolute laws of the human

being, the ultimate working structure of the human mind and of

reality.

>

> And if you follow Patanjali you will come to know that he is as

exact as any mathematical formula. Simply do what he says and

the result will happen. The result is bound to happen -- it is just

like two plus two become four; it is just like you heat water up to

one hundred degrees and it evaporates. No belief is needed,

you simply do it and know. It is something to be done and

known. That's why I say there is no comparison: never again has

a man existed on this Earth like Patanjali.

>

> You can find poetry in Buddha's utterances; it is bound to be

there. Many times while Buddha is expressing himself he

becomes poetic. The realm of ecstasy, the realm of ultimate

knowing is so beautiful, the temptation is so strong to become

poetic...the beauty is such, the benediction is such, the bliss is

such that one starts talking in poetic language.

>

> But Patanjali resists that. It is very difficult, no one else has

been able to resist. Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, they all became

poetic. When the splendor, the beauty explode within you, you

will start dancing, you will start singing. In that state you are just

like a lover who has fallen in love with the whole universe.

>

> Patanjali resists that. He will not use poetry; he will not even

use a single poetic symbol. He will not do anything with poetry.

He will not talk in terms of beauty: he will talk in terms of

mathematics, he will be exact. And he will give you maxims --

those maxims are just indications of what is to be done. He will

not explode into ecstasy, he will not say things that cannot be

said, he will not try the impossible. He will just put down the

foundation and if you follow the foundation you will reach the

peak which is beyond. He is a rigorous mathematician,

remember this.

>

> Osho: The Path of Yoga

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> The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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